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Old 24-08-2008, 12:43   #1 (permalink)

 
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Not sure about this at all. I pay about as much attention to American politics as the average American, so I don't really know that much about it... but it seems as if Obama has recognised that the old white dude vote is significant. My concern is that the American electorate may agree and not just settle for one as VP.

At least it isn't Hillary but that poses its own problems.
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Good ticket.

Election's in the bag.
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I'm pretty sure McCain/Lieberman could take them on and win comfortably. Obama is making Americans more and more nervous by the day with his obvious lack of leadership credentials. Hillary's hanging fire until 2012, as it's fairly likely McCain will only serve one full term. Joe Biden's a ridiculous, anachronistic figure, a busted flush who has no place on the modern political stage.

I still can't see Obama wining this. Even if he does, he'll be even worse than Carter and condemn the Dems to opposition for a generation. However it goes, I'd put a bet on Huckabee vs. Clinton in 2012.
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So a lot like McCain then?
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I'm pretty sure McCain/Lieberman could take them on and win comfortably. Obama is making Americans more and more nervous by the day with his obvious lack of leadership credentials. Hillary's hanging fire until 2012, as it's fairly likely McCain will only serve one full term. Joe Biden's a ridiculous, anachronistic figure, a busted flush who has no place on the modern political stage.

I still can't see Obama wining this. Even if he does, he'll be even worse than Carter and condemn the Dems to opposition for a generation. However it goes, I'd put a bet on Huckabee vs. Clinton in 2012.
are you watching the same election as the rest of the world?
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McCain is not going to pick ex-Democrat Lieberman and bring down the wrath of Rush"I munch scat" Limbaugh, even if it would be tactically sound. As for lack of leadership credentials, I don't see McCain's either, being a POW isn't any type of preparation for high office. Also he has kow-towed to the Republican machines desires, losing any distinction from their standard he may have had. Oh, and he is a misogynist who has publicly berated his wife, despite her money being what has given him any sort of chance. A bad man.
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I'm pretty sure McCain/Lieberman could take them on and win comfortably. Obama is making Americans more and more nervous by the day with his obvious lack of leadership credentials. Hillary's hanging fire until 2012, as it's fairly likely McCain will only serve one full term. Joe Biden's a ridiculous, anachronistic figure, a busted flush who has no place on the modern political stage.

I still can't see Obama wining this. Even if he does, he'll be even worse than Carter and condemn the Dems to opposition for a generation. However it goes, I'd put a bet on Huckabee vs. Clinton in 2012.
No way! The “bad dream” that has been eight years of Bush/Cheney/ Neocon rule is over. Although the most recent CNN poll since Biden being announced VP has show both sides running pretty much neck and neck, i'd be surprised if anything but blue sits down in the Whitehouse come Jan.
Ok, Biden is a bit of a dinosaur, and choosing Hilary Clinton would have just about guaranteed a Democratic victory in November (along with competent governance), but i still like Biden. Yeah, sure, he's famous for his gaffs, but just as much (if not as much) as McCain! The Republicans play up McCain's foreign policy experience...but fail to mention massive fails as him confusing Sunni for Shia and Czechoslovakia for the Czech Republic. Biden is a scrappy fighter, yeah, but that kind of talk plays well with certain segments of the population that perhaps the Obama happy hands club doesn't quite reach. Biden gets into people's faces, but doesn't pander. He'll go into town halls and call people by their first name, talk about his family openly, how his father couldn't afford to send him to college, and about how this election could change America. Biden has also had massive support from the Republican senetors in Indiana and Pennsylvania. Talk about bipartisan cred! With Obama and Biden you get real change and real experience together as one. With McCain you get no change and rocky experience.

But when you're dealing with a population in which more than one in 10 still think Obama is Muslim, well...you know...yeah.
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But when you're dealing with a population in which more than one in 10 still think Obama is Muslim, well...you know...yeah.
I was just reading a Herald article where someone pointed out that the democrat ticket is now just four typos away from disaster!
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I was just reading a Herald article where someone pointed out that the democrat ticket is now just four typos away from disaster!
i have to admit when i first scanned the new posts and saw this thread i read is at osama bin laden 08. it's a name so ingrained that the brain just assumes that's what it's seeing.

it's bound to be joked about for a few weeks. i'm sure jon stewart and the daily show will make something of it at least.
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Does this (Biden) mean that Obama will hire Neil Kinnock as his speechwriter?
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