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[KimyReizeger]

Originally Posted by emergency72

And the tooth fairy really brings you money if you leave money under your pillow....

What are you saying? That the British government is a stand alone body acting away from the interests of British people? What are you? A 1980's Welsh miner?

Looks like you quoted me very selectively out of context and it's probably not worth bothering about about, but I'm intrigued..

[Bear]

Originally Posted by Stripey

How on earth can this carry on without international humanitarian intervention?

Because, unfortunately, international relations are based on power and not law (despite whatever else they say).

I agree with you that it's an absolute fucken disgrace. But I ain't gonna blame (or boycott) ordinary Israeli's for it I'm afraid.

[Stripey]

Originally Posted by Bear

Because, unfortunately, international relations are based on power and not law (despite whatever else they say).

I agree with you that it's an absolute fucken disgrace. But I ain't gonna blame (or boycott) ordinary Israeli's for it I'm afraid.

I guess you haven't met many "ordinary israelis". The *vast majority* of israeli's I've met have been cool to talk to, but once you touch on politics *most* of them still completeley support the stance of their government and have some pretty entrenched racist / bigoted points of view.

Like I said, military service is compulsory in Israel and most israelis in their early 20's will have served in areas where they are directly involved in the ongoing oppression and brutalisation of the palestinian people. In this respect, the "ordinary israelis" that you speak of are not just politically lazy, disenfranchised passives who have no control over the actions of their government, but they are actually directly involved in the criminal brutalisation of the palestinian people that occurs every day in the west bank and gaza. So it is entirely reasonable to blame AND boycott these "ordinary israelis" because they literally are the people who are responsible.

War and the Morality of Americans by Joseph Potter

read this article, it's equally appropriate for Israel and the UK.

[Stripey]

BBC NEWS | Middle East | Olmert faces new corruption probe

[Old Gold]

People shouldn't care, because the band are really good and hopefully have never killed anyone who didn't deserve it.

Innocent until proven guilty!

[Stripey]

Originally Posted by Old Gold

People shouldn't care, because the band are really good and hopefully have never killed anyone who didn't deserve it.

Innocent until proven guilty!

well they are certainly guilty of sounding about 30 years out of date.

[Shaki]

I'd shag an Israeli bird if she was hot and I'd go and see an Israeli band if they were good. No fucking way I'd touch one of their fucking avocados though.

[jamesbroonbreed]

I'd shag a kettle if it was hot.