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[Le Stu]

LOL @ white people. I can't believe they called the cops.

[Stichman]

Originally Posted by Le Stu

LOL @ white people. I can't believe they called the cops.

Yeah, getting the police involved was surely a bit of an overreaction?
This guy was obviously just ignorant. His primary view on school places being tight because of 'pakis' was simply ignorant. His use of the term 'paki' was racist, but as has been said, he probabaly grew up using that word - that doesn't make it right, but it does make it understandable.
The woman should have engaged and challenged him on the subject rather than running off and calling up the police. Even when she did phone them up, the most he should have got was a talking to by a few officers. Words like "darkies" and "paki" are racist, there is no getting away from that. But this was just an old boy that didn't know any better. A stern warning would have done the job. Dragging him backwards through the courts was just ridiculous.

[Stichman]

Out of interest, do you think it's offensive to call somebody who IS Pakistani a "Paki"? Or to call a Chinese man a "chink"? Or is it only wrong if these words are used to generalise people of a particular skin colour?

Remember Calling someone a Scot is fine because we arent a race

But calling someone from pakistan a paki is bad?

fair enough if you call an indian a paki but not a pakistani

At work the other day i had to do a drug search on an off-white gentleman of asian descent he came out with the line "why are you doing this to me im no terrorist im indian not a paki" then he started crying see this as you will

[Neil]

Originally Posted by MerryChristmas

Remember Calling someone a Scot is fine because we arent a race

But calling someone from pakistan a paki is bad?

fair enough if you call an indian a paki but not a pakistani

At work the other day i had to do a drug search on an off-white gentleman of asian descent he came out with the line "why are you doing this to me im no terrorist im indian not a paki" then he started crying see this as you will

What people have to understand is that words like "paki" and "chinky" are considered racist terms because of their etymology and intent. Calling someone who is Scottish a "Scot" is not similar because it isn't derogatory and therefore isn't offensive to anyone.

[Le Stu]

Originally Posted by Stichman

Out of interest, do you think it's offensive to call somebody who IS Pakistani a "Paki"? Or to call a Chinese man a "chink"? Or is it only wrong if these words are used to generalise people of a particular skin colour?

It is derogatory in the UK to say Paki. In other parts of the world it isn't.

But this is how working class people speak. They'd have to sling two thirds of Scotland in the clink and then the other third for being classist!

*Oh wait, I didn't really get what you were saying due to being really tired. Um. Good question. Maybe not, actually. I've never been to Pakistan, but in the US it isn't very offensive, but NEVER say Oriental.

[KimyReizeger]

I'm just surprised someone can be so sensitive to simple, trite language from a cabby. Particularly an ex-labour MP.

Originally Posted by Neil

What people have to understand is that words like "paki" and "chinky" are considered racist terms because of their etymology and intent. Calling someone who is Scottish a "Scot" is not similar because it isn't derogatory and therefore isn't offensive to anyone.

So if someone calls me a scots cunt in a negative way I automatically become a different race? White Powah

[Diesel]

Originally Posted by Stichman

Yeah, getting the police involved was surely a bit of an overreaction?
This guy was obviously just ignorant. His primary view on school places being tight because of 'pakis' was simply ignorant. His use of the term 'paki' was racist, but as has been said, he probabaly grew up using that word - that doesn't make it right, but it does make it understandable.
The woman should have engaged and challenged him on the subject rather than running off and calling up the police. Even when she did phone them up, the most he should have got was a talking to by a few officers. Words like "darkies" and "paki" are racist, there is no getting away from that. But this was just an old boy that didn't know any better. A stern warning would have done the job. Dragging him backwards through the courts was just ridiculous.

The woman should have kept her fucking self-righteous hole shut and not used a stupid, (and probably) poorly educated, but otherwise harmless pensioner as a platform to show the world how wonderfully PC she is.

Personally, I think name-calling across any demographic is cheap and demonstrates a weakness in character, but it doesn't warrant putting a 71-year old through an ordeal like that.

Whatever happened to "sticks and stones" and "forgive them father because they know not what they do"?...or are us awful, awful Brits the only nation on earth who aren't a bunch of sensitive blouses?

My wife is a lovely shade of Moray blue/white and is contstantly subjected to comments about her complexion, from my mother's "yer looking affy pale the day, hen", to some Arab who offered me money for her when we were in Amsterdam last year - she gets a lot off attentention from Arabs - go figure (I've still got her as me and the boy couldn't agree on a deal ).

The comments irritate her at times, but she doesn't feel the need to run crying to her MP.

ps - should I have mentioned that bit about the Arab and my missus? I could be stereotyping here. Oooh, I'm all confused now. That could be construed as racist. Maybe I should have asked him where he was from and not assumed he was Arab. My head hurts.

[Chris]

Originally Posted by MerryChristmas

So if someone calls me a scots cunt in a negative way I automatically become a different race? White Powah

Yeah but it's not really the word scot that makes that phrase offensive.