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[delboy]

and now gerry mccan is a suspect - all kind of rumours flying around the media (i.e the portugese old bill offered her a confession deal)

[Hogisbald]

WTF with deals? Either provide suitable evidence (Which is also UK verified) or not.

[Cloud]

Originally Posted by Hogisbald

WTF with deals? Either provide suitable evidence (Which is also UK verified) or not.

It would seem that the evidence is starting to build against them - they're (apparently) coming back to the UK this morning, which just makes them look even more suspicious. If they didn't do anything wrong, why are they running away from Portugal? They're also seemingly trying to get political support here - again, why bother if you've done nothing wrong?

From the various media reports, it would seem that while there's no "smoking gun" to link them to anything, there's enough to suggest that something isn't adding up about the case. In which case, their running away is just going to make matters worse - what says guilt more than suddenly running away after you've pledged numerous times to stay until the missing child is found?

From the findmadeleine website -

Originally Posted by Gerry McCann

Anyone who knows anything about the 3rd May knows that Kate is completely innocent. We will fight this all the way and we will not stop looking for Madeleine.

So...if you won't stop looking for her, why are you returning to the UK? It's a pretty safe bet that given our border controls, she's unlikely to be in this country. So why not stay in Europe?

Something tells me that they might have been told straight by a police chief that either they leave or they face charges. I'm sure I read a report somewhere that said that the locals were sick to death of them as it was harming their tourist industry - so would it be really that surprising if they were given the choice of getting out or getting charged?

[delboy]

there's no smoke without fire to coin an old cliche!!!!

[Tubthumper]

Originally Posted by Cloud

It would seem that the evidence is starting to build against them - they're (apparently) coming back to the UK this morning, which just makes them look even more suspicious. If they didn't do anything wrong, why are they running away from Portugal? They're also seemingly trying to get political support here - again, why bother if you've done nothing wrong?

From the various media reports, it would seem that while there's no "smoking gun" to link them to anything, there's enough to suggest that something isn't adding up about the case. In which case, their running away is just going to make matters worse - what says guilt more than suddenly running away after you've pledged numerous times to stay until the missing child is found?

From the findmadeleine website -



So...if you won't stop looking for her, why are you returning to the UK? It's a pretty safe bet that given our border controls, she's unlikely to be in this country. So why not stay in Europe?

Something tells me that they might have been told straight by a police chief that either they leave or they face charges. I'm sure I read a report somewhere that said that the locals were sick to death of them as it was harming their tourist industry - so would it be really that surprising if they were given the choice of getting out or getting charged?

What a heap of shite. They're not allowed to come HOME because you say so? I'm sure that if I was in their shoes I'd do exactly the same thing so I could have my family, etc around me.

Also, another point I'd like to make is this...there's been no confirmation that the blood in the car was Madeline's. If that was true, it would be a scene of crime, yet they were still driving it around...

[Frosty Jack]

Originally Posted by Cloud

It would seem that the evidence is starting to build against them - they're (apparently) coming back to the UK this morning, which just makes them look even more suspicious. ... blah etc

Drivel. Because they are now suspects the Police can order them to stay, but they have to build a case and apply for it. So the McCanns are returning to Britain before they can do that. Seems sensible considering they still have two other kids to care for. Whether they should have stayed out there this long is questionable, but surely it's better to get them back to the UK and to the rest of the family while they can.

[Cloud]

Originally Posted by Frosty Jack

Drivel. Because they are now suspects the Police can order them to stay, but they have to build a case and apply for it. So the McCanns are returning to Britain before they can do that. Seems sensible considering they still have two other kids to care for. Whether they should have stayed out there this long is questionable, but surely it's better to get them back to the UK and to the rest of the family while they can.

Wait, I'm talking drivel, yet you're agreeing that it's sensible for them to run away from the possibility of charges against them? Surely if they are innocent, it makes sense to stay in Portugal and clear their name, rather than always have a cloud hanging over their possible guilt in the matter? As it stands, they could face the possibility of being extradited to Portugal if the police there make a strong enough case for them - and then where do their kids stand?

What a heap of shite. They're not allowed to come HOME because you say so? I'm sure that if I was in their shoes I'd do exactly the same thing so I could have my family, etc around me.

If I had the power over these things, I'd do exactly what the Government here has done and kept out of it, despite pressure from friends and family of the McCann's. But again, why run away now? There's a possibility that they could be forced to return to Portugal for more questioning - how's that going to look if it happens? But as I said, I suspect the case will now wind down - with no McCann's around, is it going to be worth the time of the Portuguese police building a case against the McCann's or kidnappers unknown?

Also, another point I'd like to make is this...there's been no confirmation that the blood in the car was Madeline's. If that was true, it would be a scene of crime, yet they were still driving it around...

From what the media reports have been saying, they're not able to get a definite match on the DNA and so subsequently can't prove what actually caused the DNA to be there (blood, toys, whatever). Apparently it was the answers given during questioning that made them suspect something wasn't adding up - but it just reeks of grasping at straws by the Portuguese police.

Notably, newspapers have been stating as fact that the police told the McCann's that 'the blood in the car was Madeleine's'. It seems a pretty powerful thing to say if it's not true - and if it is true, then I'm not surprised that they ran away.

I wonder how all the people that donated to the "Pay the McCann's to extend their holiday Fund" feel now that questions are arising over the McCann's possible involvement in the case?

Originally Posted by delboy

there's no smoke without fire to coin an old cliche!!!!

Ack, I really don't know. The running away is suspicious, but given the McCann's conduct so far, it just seems yet another ill-judged move on their part. We shouldn't read too much into their status as formal suspects - it's a concept unknown in the UK, and relates more to their ability to keep silent and given certain legal rights as opposed to any actual suspicion of guilt.

I don't think this case will ever be resolved, though.

[Swingin' Ryan]

Originally Posted by Shaki

One British tourist shouted: "We believe you, Kate."

I bet that person's been to Wimbledon and shouted "come on Tim" too.

Hahaha.

There were also apparently people there booing her as she went in. I don't know what kind of world we live in that tourists actually stand outside police stations to cheer or boo murder suspects. It's not the Big Brother final.

[Frosty Jack]

Originally Posted by Cloud

Wait, I'm talking drivel, yet you're agreeing that it's sensible for them to run away from the possibility of charges against them?

No, I'm not. I'm saying they probably decided that now there was a chance they would be forced to stay in Portugal, it would be better if they could take the twins home themselves and settle them with the extended family. Then if necessary they can go back. Better that than wait in Portugal until they can't go back and then what would happen to the twins?. They're not running away - the fact they're not in the Country is not going to stop them being charged - they're just doing what they arguably should have done months ago and taking care of the other two.

As it stands, they could face the possibility of being extradited to Portugal if the police there make a strong enough case for them - and then where do their kids stand?

Exactly where they should be.

[Jan Deal]

When did Gerry McCann register on Aberdeen-Music?