Global Warming?

[Stichman]

BBC NEWS | Science/Nature | 'Scepticism' over climate claims


What do y'all make of it?
I'm far from a scientist, but I'm a bit sceptical.
Did anyone see AL Gore on the news last night? He got asked about this MORI poll, and the conversation went something liek this -


Interviewer - But didn't you say the sea level will rise by 20ft?

Big Al - No, I said IF the Arctic Circle and Greenland melted, THEN the sea level COULD rise by up top 20ft.

Interviewer - (Bemused expression)

[Savant]

It'd be nice to think that GW isn't happening, and it seems that no-one can be sure eitherway, but it wouldn't hurt to cut down emissions and use less energy etc. At the very least we'll have less atmospheric pollution to inhale.

[Alkaline]

It's all nonsense. We undoubtedly have an effect on the environment but we aren't solely responsible for climate change, the planet goes through natural cycles and would regardless of whether we were here or not. Christ there's been ice ages and much more severe droughts before humans were even present on this planet and i very much doubt the dinosaurs had a bigger carbon footprint and generated more waste/emmissons than humans.

I think the seasons are slowly going to flip and we will probably have the warmest parts of the year over the November/December period and the winter months over June/July. It wouldn't be a total hardship, the Aussies cope with that already.

The Earth has a good way of keeping itself balanced anyway.

[Savant]

Originally Posted by Alkaline

...and i very much doubt the dinosaurs had a bigger carbon footprint and generated more waste/emmissons than humans.

Are you serious?! Dinosaurs fart, that's about it. Billions of humans use cars, powerstations, planes etc etc that all emit CO2.

I've often wondered about ice ages etc - the worlds temprature/climate changes constantly, but isn't the worry of global warming due to the fact that it (climate) has changed dramatically since industrial revolutions?

[Dayeth]

It's obviously a much debated topic when you read one scientific report that claims our carbon emissions are going to be the death of us all, whilst another scientific report claims it's all complete twoddle. But my take on it from everything I've read and watched is that, like Alkaline said the Earth does through natural cycles and climate change WILL happen and there's no amount of cutting down emissions or work that the human race can do about it.

I think the effects of it are already starting to show through the bizarre weather patterns we have been having particularly over the last year or so, this week (where I am) being a good example.

Not to say that cutting down emissions is a pointless exercise, who knows it may slow the process, and it certainly would be a step in the right direction regarding air pollution. The report that I believe (given only what I know) says that our carbon emissions are a negligible fraction of the gases surrounding the earth that are trapping the heat bouncing off the Earth.

I certainly don't agree with the way Airlines, for example, have been targetted so majorly as the main contributors towards carbon emissions. Ban Motorsport for fuck sake.

[Savant]

But motorsport is partly responsible for new technologies - more efficient engines and the like. Ban the people who drive up and down the beach at high speed.

[KimyReizeger]

Originally Posted by Stichman

BBC NEWS | Science/Nature | 'Scepticism' over climate claims


What do y'all make of it?
I'm far from a scientist, but I'm a bit sceptical.
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I see a bland news article suggesting that the a fair whack of the population don't fully understand how rapid atmospheric change will be in the foreseeable future.

[KimyReizeger]

Originally Posted by Alkaline

Christ there's been ice ages and much more severe droughts before humans were even present on this planet and i very much doubt the dinosaurs had a bigger carbon footprint and generated more waste/emmissons than humans.
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Something tells me a naturally occurring ice age spanning a number of years inconceivable to you or I is in a different ball-park to the damage done by three or four human generations.

I can see a markedly different human existence emerging in the next thirty years; a significant restriction on things we currently take for granted, or a polluted, over-crowded shit-hole.

[Twojoe]

Mother natures at it and we're not helping...

7(y) Causes of Climate Change

[Dayeth]

Originally Posted by Savant

But motorsport is partly responsible for new technologies - more efficient engines and the like. Ban the people who drive up and down the beach at high speed.

Surely there is better ways of developing new technologies than having 20+ cars tearing about at 200mph for entire weekends at a time, burning rubber and pushing the engines for performance.