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Is it OK for bands to mime? -
14-06-2007, 16:30
Calvin Harris last nite. What a gig!
But yeh there was a high NRG backing band made up of a bassist, a drumist and a guitarist, and another keyboardist. To me, they looked like they were playing and jumping around like mentalists - adding to the whole performance - but were they making any audible contribution to the massive programmed electrobeat sound that was coming at us from the soundsystem. Again, personal opinion only, but NO I dont theink they were. Were they props then? It worked anyway. Fucking great gig. So if thats the case with electronic based acts - add a fake ''live band'' to mime to the pre-programmed wall of sound and just do the singing live - All to create the illusion of a live band. Is this OK? It was entertaining so I say it is. But thats me. If/when Ferrari Rocher play live we would ideally add live drums and live instruments to the preprogrammed element of the sound - but how much hassle is that??? - so would we be cunts if we did what Calvin Harris looks to be doing - very successfully. Hypothetically of course. Eh? |
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14-06-2007, 17:22
He was awfully tall wasn't he...
I don't really mind if they are miming, so as long as the illusion is still that there. I don't nescessarily think music has to be life to have the desired effect. I know most people will take great issue with that statement; however electropop is a genre that doesn't initially lend itself to be played live. It can be done, it may need to be arranged sligthly differently, but when you can program a keyboard to basically produce the entire output then unless it actually adds to the performance is there much point? As for last night, Calvin is being marketed as an artist rather than the faceless dance acts that are also doing the rounds, so he could've had some scantily clad ladies gyrating to his sides, or he could've had a band 'producing' the musical output. Either way the album is fucking amazing and I can't wait to hear what he's been up to with miss minogue. |
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14-06-2007, 17:34
I reckon it depends how much the material relies on the processing you're doing in the studio to retain it's character, it would be a shame if you replaced really nicely processed sequenced drums with a dreary rock drum kit just for the sake of having a drummer on stage.
I don't think there's anything to be ashamed of in using sequenced parts in a live context, when that is a huge part of your material - miming in a live setting is just insulting the audiences intelligence. Would you really want to compromise your own integrity by pretending there is no offline studio production involved in your tracks anyway? Ableton in conjuction with a good midi controller could be a way to retain a live performance aspect in terms of things you can't compromise on and keep things sonically interesting without patronising the audience. |
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14-06-2007, 21:04
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 Same thinking really. If I was American I'd say "miming is real dumb". I suppose if there's not a great deal of live instrumentation and you want to make it a show then you need something to look at. I'd go with gyrating women though. |
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I saw Divine " live" -
15-06-2007, 00:05
Great show, loads of miming and posing, loads of costume changes, and other wank, at least he never ate a dog shit on stage, or got his/her bits oot in the name of entertainment.
Aye, bring on the pre programmed bollocks, at least it will sound better than half the namby pamby shite gan aroon noo adays. By the way, 16 again are supporting the UK SUBS soon, ye winna get ony miming or wanky pish ,but ye will nae doot be too busy watching pish on TV to hae a gander...your loss.. it's a very well and good slagging athing in sight, but unless you provide an alternative, fit ither option div I hae?. Mon the shameless cover bands, especially the anes that play killer sets full o the songs that mak ye grin, dance and sing. Gaes half a chance to use my electric kit and I will, but till then I will hae fun wi my chums playing tunes that are better than maist o the pish gan aboot nooadays. |
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20-06-2007, 13:11
I think it's perfectly acceptable, perhaps even essential where one is performing to an audience composed entirely on deaf people.
*THAT WAS A JOKE BTW* The audience pays it's money and takes it's choice. There is no universal law decreeing that something like this is JUST PLAIN WRONG. Better to perform things as they were intended rather than to contrive them, whether that involves miming OR actually playing live. But, taking this to an extreme... would I personally pay to see someone prancing around their PC? Ha - that would probably depend on whether they were wearing any clothes  "If Capital punishment makes the state a murderer then life imprisonment must make the state a gay dungeon master." -Rev. Jesse Jackson Please contact our promoters for a gig: fudgemusic@hotmail.co.uk "From thirty feet away she looked like a lot of class. From ten feet away she looked like something made up to be seen from thirty feet away." - Raymond Chandler |
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