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[patrick boo]

The radio one website has now replaced the genre 'pop' with the word 'daytime'. One notices that David Bowie was played on one of those fancy shmancy musik vidio channels the other night under the umbrella 'Britrock Classics'. Not too long ago the thin white duke was enjoying the limelight as the grandfather of Britpop, and although that phrase even at the time made me shudder at least it revelled in the unashamed pop-ness of the time. Are you telling me David Bowie aint a popstar?
This insidious 'rebranding' of music has more to do with demographics and markets than anything else - the Brit Awards are a case in point, with the most boring middle-aged unit shifters lauded and the great pop music we make in this country put in token categories 'for the kids'. I thought in the nineties we all grew up a bit when boundaries blurred and people just loved good stuff for the sake of good stuff... maybe the times were just an anomaly, as the attitudes and bullshit of the eighties seems to be taking over again, only ratcheted up a notch.
This rant could go in fifty different directions at once, but I don't have the time or nervous energy to do so. Lets see where you Boofolks take it....

[Sam the Eagle]

it makes me want to cry.

a lot.

[Hardcore Mel]

agreed. since when was pop a bad thing. what would people call the likes of Kylie and the Scissor Sisters who you wouldn't consider just 'for the kids'? Gay friendly? Crypto-homo?
Ugh, I love pop. It's nothing to be ashamed about.

[Old Gold]

Ach, don't get bent out of shape about it. The music's not changing

[CRANIAL_MIND]

pop wouldnt be so bad if it wasnt force fed into every radio/tv owning/club attending person in the country.spose thats what makes it popular, if so many people hear the same sort of shit over and over again then thats what their musical brain is gona want to hear, and the pop moguls are expert are repackaging and recycling the same musical ideas so theres never a need to worry about hearing something that isnt instantly 'likeable'. its like the instant coffee of music, to compare, think how a microwave cooks food fast but completely changes the molecular makeup of the food so it isnt good for you,whereas an oven takes time cooking food but does it properly , like a band who spends time on a song and ends up with something that can be appreciated again and again for years, instead of these pop writers who make 10 songs a day and sell them to the highest bidder for mass-media bombardment. pop has destroyed the real music industry as far as i can tell, i know people enjoy dancing around to it when their pissed, but it doesnt excuse the fact that bands and artists of the magnitude and soul of The Doors,Pink Floyd, Bob Marley ,and Jimi Hendrix will probably b never seen again.Its sad , its not because these bands dont/will not exist, but because they arent/wont be forced into radios and tv's everywhere. just a thought

[RF Scott]

Originally Posted by CRANIAL_MIND

pop wouldnt be so bad if it wasnt force fed into every radio/tv owning/club attending person in the country.spose thats what makes it popular, if so many people hear the same sort of shit over and over again then thats what their musical brain is gona want to hear, and the pop moguls are expert are repackaging and recycling the same musical ideas so theres never a need to worry about hearing something that isnt instantly 'likeable'. its like the instant coffee of music, to compare, think how a microwave cooks food fast but completely changes the molecular makeup of the food so it isnt good for you,whereas an oven takes time cooking food but does it properly , like a band who spends time on a song and ends up with something that can be appreciated again and again for years, instead of these pop writers who make 10 songs a day and sell them to the highest bidder for mass-media bombardment. pop has destroyed the real music industry as far as i can tell, i know people enjoy dancing around to it when their pissed, but it doesnt excuse the fact that bands and artists of the magnitude and soul of The Doors,Pink Floyd, Bob Marley ,and Jimi Hendrix will probably b never seen again.Its sad , its not because these bands dont/will not exist, but because they arent/wont be forced into radios and tv's everywhere. just a thought

Still, not hearing Bob Marley on the radio - hooray!

[patrick boo]

Originally Posted by CRANIAL_MIND

but it doesnt excuse the fact that bands and artists of the magnitude and soul of The Doors,Pink Floyd, Bob Marley ,and Jimi Hendrix will probably b never seen again.Its sad , its not because these bands dont/will not exist, but because they arent/wont be forced into radios and tv's everywhere. just a thought

Now you're either fifty or fifteen going on fifty... It's like punk never happened... sigh...

Oh, and before anyone says anything, punk had a lot more to do with three minute pop songs than guitar solos. That is what I'm talking about...

[Larsen B]

Originally Posted by RF Scott

Still, not hearing Bob Marley on the radio - hooray!

Not hearing Hendrix and Floyd on the radio is equally deserving of such elation. On the subject of "pop" I consider almost all music pop. Radiohead are as disposable as the Scissor Sisters.

[Larsen B]

Originally Posted by patrick boo

Now you're either fifty or fifteen going on fifty... It's like punk never happened... sigh...

Oh, and before anyone says anything, punk had a lot more to do with three minute pop songs than guitar solos. That is what I'm talking about...

I agree with this, punk and it's aftermath was the second golden age of pop, the first being the 60s.

[Sam the Eagle]

Originally Posted by CRANIAL_MIND

pop wouldnt be so bad if it wasnt force fed into every radio/tv owning/club attending person in the country.spose thats what makes it popular, if so many people hear the same sort of shit over and over again then thats what their musical brain is gona want to hear, and the pop moguls are expert are repackaging and recycling the same musical ideas so theres never a need to worry about hearing something that isnt instantly 'likeable'. its like the instant coffee of music, to compare, think how a microwave cooks food fast but completely changes the molecular makeup of the food so it isnt good for you,whereas an oven takes time cooking food but does it properly , like a band who spends time on a song and ends up with something that can be appreciated again and again for years, instead of these pop writers who make 10 songs a day and sell them to the highest bidder for mass-media bombardment. pop has destroyed the real music industry as far as i can tell, i know people enjoy dancing around to it when their pissed, but it doesnt excuse the fact that bands and artists of the magnitude and soul of The Doors,Pink Floyd, Bob Marley ,and Jimi Hendrix will probably b never seen again.Its sad , its not because these bands dont/will not exist, but because they arent/wont be forced into radios and tv's everywhere. just a thought

apart from the hendrix, marley, doors and floyd points everything you've said is so unbeliveably wrong it makes me sad. Pop is, was and ever will be THE most important musical genre in history.

This is because pop is ever changing yet everlasting.

EVER CHANGING.
EVERLASTING.