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[jimr]

Originally posted by Lester Burnham:
You're right, I have no idea. By the way, I do support myself now... and have managed to avoid the grande debt of banks and credit cards... sometimes it means I have literally no money for periods of time. But alas I survive.

And greedists? Most people with money have worked fucking hard for it... and what do you suggest? We take it away so someone can fuel a 40 a day habit? That's what I detest... people talking about greed.

It's nothing to do with greed, its to do with the fact that half our nation are too lethargic to get off their arses.

He wasn't asking whether you support yourself, thats immaterial. What he meant is the chances are you weren't born in an enviroment that naturally inhibits your ability to progress in life, as most of the poor in Britain are. In a capitalist society everyone, from rich to poor, is taught that possesions are everything. It's the reason that people who can ill afford to pay the rent buy overly expensive items like Burberry. It's a status thing. The very existance of billionaires and millionaires prove that greed is the propulsion behind capitalism. No one needs that much money. Yet it is presented in the media, the shitty celebrity magazines that sells to a predominatly lower income market, as what people should aspire to.

The one thing I have always despised about the torries is the view that people are only ever poor because they are lazy. I can understand the liberal reasons for not wanting to pay more than anyone else, but I just don't get the widespread laziness thing . Yes extrodinary people can break out of the worst enviroments and make it big in the world. They, however, are the exception. Something that most people seem to skip over. On the other hand the Labour idea of throwing money at everything isn't any better, but atleast it's well intentioned.

I am not going to offer a solution to the problem. I am not very smart, and if I could come up with an answer then the chances are the problem wouldn't exist.

Greed is the only drive that exists in this country, and thats where the problem is.

[betamax]

The BNP are obviously quite worried about any influx of better looking, better educated, harder working people from the eastern block countries in comparison to the ignorant sociopathic inbred Sun reading fucks that they themselves are. They would then have to face up to reality and the actual realisation they are actually the human disease that should be deported en-mass in a leaky wooden boat. Not people from the rest of the world. Insular bastards.

I hate nationalism and democracy in equal amounts.

The form of society I could happily live in hasn’t been invented yet. It would probably be a sort of communist free love discoteque where we all drove state sponsored pink bubble cars and ex-conservatives were were melted down for dog food.

PS Graham Coxon targets sun and daily mail readers on his nu album. Tres Bon.

[patrick boo]

Originally posted by betamax:


The form of society I could happily live in hasn’t been invented yet. It would probably be a sort of communist free love discoteque where we all drove state sponsored pink bubble cars and ex-conservatives were were melted down for dog food.

...Now there's a film I'd pay to see. Can I be an extra in the communist free love discoteque scene? I've spent an awful lot of money and time with hallucinogenic drugs to be in that situation - to get there in reality would be a lifetime's ambition fulfilled.

[Lawy Lawson:Attorney]

Funny how it seems to be a tendency of the extreme right to blame exterior sources for any malady facing the country rather than, you know, examining real issues?
I really don't think anyone is going to listen to the BNP, well, not anyone who matters.
Yeah, I know their target demographic has votes too, but people who believe what a BNP leaflet says don't strike me as the first in line at the polling station.
More 'sticking plaster' bullshit, really. Quick fix solutions to deep routed cancers.
crap!

[delboy]

thing is the BNP have got their message through in places like bradford and burnley where there just happens to be large populations of asians coupled with poverty striken council estates. you know all this 'johnny foreigner' stuff is bullshit, its just that many white british still live on the ideals of the 'great empire' which was bullshit in itself. the more multi cultured we become the better, i think that stiff upper lip brigade (these people also whole heartidly support keeping the pound, say no the EU etc) is a generation that is beginning to die out anyway.

many people believe everything they see or what has been drummed into them by their parents/family. yes illegal immigration is a problem but it is papers like the daily mail who consistantly print pictures of illegal immigrants hanging around causing trouble with titles like 'kick these evil bastards out', its not just the mail (the sun for example are equally guilty of such scare tactics) but they seem to be the worst culprits.

i do agree with the notion that in general the british are a lazy race, and also a fucked up one.

Anyone actually reckon the BNP will nick a seat though? Some net bookies will give 7-1 on it - whilst I do not endorse the BNP in any way, that might be worth a punt given just how much racial hatred does exist in this country.......

[ape man]

The BNP are a group of racist freaks who think that if you are foreign you are inherently evil. But if we censor them then we have comprimised thier freedom of speech and we are not about to syoop to the same level as them!



Thus endith the crazed rantings.

[ape man]

I meant "stoop" everyone knows I meant "stoop"

[delboy]

Originally posted by ape man:
The BNP are a group of racist freaks who think that if you are foreign you are inherently evil. But if we censor them then we have comprimised thier freedom of speech and we are not about to syoop to the same level as them!



Thus endith the crazed rantings.

thing is though the BNP also target groups like disillusioned pensioners who are far from 'racist freaks' but still live on the notion that britain is great.

i just read their list of policies on their website and a comedy genius couldn't have written them better. basically its like kick the foreigners out, keep britain british, no foreign goods, capital punishment for those proved guilty by DNA evidence or 'caught red handed...' basically the biggest list of unworkable policies i've ever seen.

[Godshole]

I am puzzled and surrounded by truth, at the same time.