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[Jim Stax]

I will take this opportunity to proffesionaly remove Dr Drake's from any connection with the origin of this thread.
Regarding doorstaff... I am legally required to have them on the premises from 11pm. I use an agency, which means I am not in complete control of who will be on my door on a given night.
I will up to this hour and beyond, as has happened, deal with most situations that arise myself... There is no substitute for common sense, dialogue and whenever possible, respect... (this is a statemenet completely free of accusation may I add)
As for underagers... Well I might have to put the price of my cans of soft pop up to £8, to cover costs! Bless em! I have a lot of regular under 18's and they show the venue nothing but respect (took me a while though). And they will all be of an age to drink at some point, which means they wiil all head up to HJ's and Moshulu! Love em all
Jim

[Chongo]

Firstly...
Where is the love?
Secondly...
The reason so many underagers get into moshulu is cos by getting all 'gothed up' one can disguise their age very easily, bit of corpse paint here, huge fing spike through the lip, maybe some fancy hat ( i like hats). Bouncers tend to think outgoing 'gothed up' folk arnt young, foolish but true.
Thirdly....
Ass Boy Bouncer at Exodus, he is a twat ignore him. He searched me cos i was wearing tie die once, and wouldnt let me into exodus with my hat on but could go into TK, seemed odd to me but nm.
Fourthly...
HJB's cocktails 241 nights ROCK ! need more :o) and dem bouncers seem nice but i usualy turn up trashed so not sure, they always say good night and hello though very warm and friendly ahahah !

[Cloud]

Just to throw something into the hat here...

The one thing that irritates me (and I've never had this at HJB's or Moshulu) is when doormen refuse you without a reason when you're perfectly sober. I tested this once by going into the place across from the Triple Kirks for a quick drink, then we tried to get into the Triple Kirks..they refused us, without reason. I *personally* find it annoying as fuck when they do that.

I personally think that a lot of aggression is caused by seemingly inexplicable things - like, I got thrown out of some club down here for being drunk. I was sat on a chair at the time, and wasn't bothering anyone. I can fully understand why some people might react badly to such an event. Thankfully, the guy in question was decent enough to let me tell my friends what was happening so they could react. Personally, I find it questionable if they were just throwing someone out without making sure they were okay, and I'd like to see all clubs have an area where they could accomodate drunk people who merely needed to sober up - throwing them out onto the streets isn't a good idea, in my opinion.

[GraemeC]

Originally posted by Cloud:[b]
I tested this once by going into the place across from the Triple Kirks for a quick drink, then we tried to get into the Triple Kirks..they refused us, without reason.

Im sorry but how does that work? are you suggesting that by coming from another pub to triple kirks and being refused entry that is some kind of scientific test.....??????

You arent 12 by any chance are you? or do you wear full combat gear on a night out....

[skinhead]

Look doormen have a hard job just accept that!! And start concentrating on the bigger picture. Doormen have the right to refuse entry to anyone!! for any reason!! Accept that!! Nuff said!!

[Flash@TMB]

In fact, to elaborate further... THEY DON'T NEED A REASON! Neither do bar staff when they refuse to serve someone, or managers when they ask someone to leave. In fact, in this day and age it is dangerous to give a reason in case it results in a lawsuit.

[Rachie]

I like the guys at Henry Js, they do their job n they're friendly enough aswell. Good balance. Maybe I'm just naive, but that's what I think.

[GraemeC]

.....let this thread die for goodness sake...!

[Cloud]

Originally posted by GraemeC:[b]
Im sorry but how does that work? are you suggesting that by coming from another pub to triple kirks and being refused entry that is some kind of scientific test.....??????

Works easily, we had a suspicion that they were doing it from watching people get turned away after they'd been in the place across the road, and when we tried it, it happened as well. If I was being paid, or had to do something for psychology, i'd have sat there and watched a bit longer. Anyway, depending if you view the social sciences as a science, you could probably do some sort of test to see what happens when 100 people leave the pub across the road and try and get into the triple kirks

Maybe it was just due to chance, I don't know - but it's a bit odd that they'd turn away people who had just left the place across the road without reason (yes, i know they don't have to give reasons..etc, but i've *never* been refused apart from when coming out of the place across the road)

I think I have too much time on my hands
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