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[Brine]

Originally Posted by Lucky Rathen

Agreed, there's nothing on that I'm even remotely interested in seeing, it's just same old, same old. The much-heralded second coming of the Lemon Tree looks like a big fucking anti-climax in my opinion.

ahmen, ahmen ahhhhhmen ahmen ahmen

brine digs out dj shitmats - Killababylonkutz and dances round the room

[AIYF]

Originally Posted by Brine

it being now ran by Upcoming Events - Aberdeen International Youth Festival's Social Network if i look at their line up for the next while its all more of the same

am i wrong? if so please point out my failing cos all i can see is maybe one gig with The Chair, Edgar Prais & The Condiments

Hi.

Aberdeen International Youth Festival have not taken over the Lemon Tree, we are hiring the venue for two weeks so we can put on music, dance and theatre during the Festival.

There will be lunchtime gigs, as well as Later.. at the Lemon Tree every night (31st July - 9 August) and our programme of new youth theatre and dance upstairs. The full line up is not yet confirmed, but will include:

Thursday 31 July
Egdar Prais, The Chair, The Condiments

Friday 1 August
The Fortunate Sons , Fuse[d]

Saturday 2 August
Jamie Safiruddin Quartet, Amplifico

Sunday 3 August
Kukadan, Joel Sebunjo, NK, Flava

Tuesday 5 August
X Certs, Onion Terror, Dan Against the World

Wednesday 6 August
Qristina and Quinn Bachand, The Hijacks, Static in the City, Copy Haho

Thursday 7 August
Sorren Maclean Band
Cast of the Capital

Friday 8 August
The Little Kicks, Right Hand Left, Headlight , Toy

Saturday 9 August
Dot J, Sunrise not Secular, Action Group

Plus:
(dates to be confirmed)
The Elizabeths
The Marionettes
Y’all is Fantasy Island

The programme has been put together with Foyer Music and Vocoustics and is something we would like to continue to develop in the future. I think we are bringing a really interesting and diverse range of music to the Lemon Tree. If you have comments or ideas for future programming by AIYF please let us know by emailing info@aiyf.org or on the forum on our website (www.aiyf.org)

When I have full listing I will post them here.

[offramp]

Originally Posted by Brine

what i dont get is the lemon tree went under ( this is just my point of view by no means a informed one ) cos it was putting on too much wankie highbrow stuff no one went too
so with the lemon tree reopening and it being now ran by Upcoming Events - Aberdeen International Youth Festival's Social Network if i look at their line up for the next while its all more of the same

am i wrong? if so please point out my failing cos all i can see is maybe one gig with The Chair, Edgar Prais & The Condiments

im all for a bit of culture but give us some thing to lure me in with

im not just moaning about the lack of bands playing but in general theres nothing for your common music fan here i wont entertained for my hard earned for instance in the edinburgh festival for the past 3 years josie long has any one seen hide or hair of her in aberdeen
no
shes been nominated for a few awards and lives in the uk so wouldnt be too expensive to get up but has any one done it no
when the lemon tree put on rich hall it was sold out so why not get more acts that will sell
surely that way they can then make money and put on their high brow stuff

like on the music halls website for the lemon tree they say they have danny bhoy on the 29th and pretty much bugger else comedy wise

its not like we dont have people here who dont know their elbows from their asses like we have giles walker, tez and interesting music promotion for starts

like giles put on hudson mohawk and i salut him for it now get rustie up and if you give me the heads up for more good music il even consider buying you a pint

tez knows whats hot

interesting music are getting great stuff up like the pictish trail supporting king creosote and de rosa

it just seems a waste of a great venue for it to go down the same route it did before

"im mad as hell, and im not going to take this any more!"
brine

Well, as far as I'm aware they haven't appointed a full-time music programmer yet.

When that happens, no doubt things will pick up. They just wanted to get it up and running for now...

Calm yer jets min

[lovers_spit]

Originally Posted by AIYF

Hi.

Thursday 31 July
Egdar Prais, The Chair, The Condiments

em, no. the condiments have split up. quite a while ago.


or they better have, cos the guitarist is now in my band and we have a show the same day

[Chris]

Originally Posted by lovers_spit

em, no. the condiments have split up. quite a while ago.


or they better have, cos the guitarist is now in my band and we have a show the same day

Edgar Prais aren't playing either according to their post on the gigs forum, the AIYF should probably stop mentoning this line up.
http://www.aberdeen-music.com/forums...emon-tree.html

[Jennifer Phillips]

what a shame that whenever someone tries to do something interesting in aberdeen it is met with such negativity. really makes you wonder why anyone bothers.

[Alkaline]

Originally Posted by Jennifer Phillips

what a shame that whenever someone tries to do something interesting in aberdeen it is met with such negativity. really makes you wonder why anyone bothers.

That's such a blanket, non-entity of a statement. I think what people are driving it is that the venue went under in the first place for a reason and now that it's re-opened it just seems to be treading the same ground again. Most people are just skeptical about the whole thing, myself included. I don't think anyone wants to close it again.

[Cloud]

Originally Posted by Alkaline

That's such a blanket, non-entity of a statement. I think what people are driving it is that the venue went under in the first place for a reason and now that it's re-opened it just seems to be treading the same ground again. Most people are just skeptical about the whole thing, myself included. I don't think anyone wants to close it again.

I suspect part of the problem lay lie in what the backers want to see.

In my opinion, the most sensible thing to do would be to integrate the Arts Centre with the Lemon Tree - keep the Lemon Tree for popular culture, and then use the Arts Centre for the 'highbrow' stuff that doesn't attract much of an audience. That gets the Lemon Tree on a sound financial platform, and then the profits can be used to subsidise other areas of the arts. You could then gain by using the Lemon Tree for things that couldn't be accomodated in the Arts Centre - and likewise, more marginal things could then be put in the Arts Centre. People would get used to the idea of both facilities as being 'one' -

Unfortunately, politics and funding arrangements will probably stop a sensible idea like that.

The other question : now that Moshulu's owned by Barfly (and thus part of a pretty big empire)....will they tolerate state funded competition? Keeping to a programme of highbrow arts with the occasional commercial thing keeps them safe - but running busy gigs 3/4 nights of the week might not.

[Bigsby]

Originally Posted by Cloud

IIn my opinion, the most sensible thing to do would be to integrate the Arts Centre with the Lemon Tree - keep the Lemon Tree for popular culture, and then use the Arts Centre for the 'highbrow' stuff that doesn't attract much of an audience. That gets the Lemon Tree on a sound financial platform, and then the profits can be used to subsidise other areas of the arts. You could then gain by using the Lemon Tree for things that couldn't be accomodated in the Arts Centre - and likewise, more marginal things could then be put in the Arts Centre. People would get used to the idea of both facilities as being 'one' -

I could be completely wrong in this, but I didn't think the Arts Centre was anything to do with the council anymore? Not sure what the exact set up is, some sort of trust perhaps. It's certainly not Aberdeen Performing Arts.

Originally Posted by Cloud

The other question : now that Moshulu's owned by Barfly (and thus part of a pretty big empire)....will they tolerate state funded competition?

Tolerate? What are they going to do?

[Cloud]

Originally Posted by Bigsby

I could be completely wrong in this, but I didn't think the Arts Centre was anything to do with the council anymore? Not sure what the exact set up is, some sort of trust perhaps. It's certainly not Aberdeen Performing Arts.

It wouldn't surprise me if there was a huge difference between the two setups, unfortunately But you would think that there would be joined up thinking - and that the relevant funding bodies would see fit to force the two together. It's completely and utterly illogical to have the Lemon Tree running completely seperate to the Arts Centre, after all.

Tolerate? What are they going to do?

It's incredibly complex, but basically, there may very well be issues if the publicly funded Lemon Tree goes head to head with a privately owned Moshulu for the same audience. It depends on so much, but it wouldn't be a surprise if a condition of their funding was to not directly compete with private business.