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Originally Posted by Camie

You idiot.
You are trying to say that it is more important that it is hot in the club(just like every other club in Aberdeen) and that the bar is too small.
Compared to a bouncer dragging clientelle down the stairs quite dangerously without any regard to safety you really don't know what you are talking about.

This is more than just "drunken idiots" - this thread would be closed if these were just people being too drunk.

having worked in exodus and tk's for over a year a few years ago and never having seen anything of that sort happen, ever. i'm entitled to think what i like thank you.

perhaps recently standards in doorstaff have slipped, but when i worked there, all the doorstaff were courteous and professional, all the time, and NOTHING as outlined in the pages before this EVER happened!

[pogofish]

Originally Posted by Pierre Von Mondragon

but I stood and POLITELY argued my case for an hour (I was amused by my own smart arsedness I think)

I think that my sympathies would lie entirely with the bouncers in that particular circumstance!

[Lucky Rathen]

Originally Posted by inc18457

having worked in exodus and tk's for over a year a few years ago and never having seen anything of that sort happen, ever. i'm entitled to think what i like thank you.

perhaps recently standards in doorstaff have slipped, but when i worked there, all the doorstaff were courteous and professional, all the time, and NOTHING as outlined in the pages before this EVER happened!

Blinkered much?

[Chris]

Originally Posted by inc18457

having worked in exodus and tk's for over a year a few years ago and never having seen anything of that sort happen, ever. i'm entitled to think what i like thank you.

perhaps recently standards in doorstaff have slipped, but when i worked there, all the doorstaff were courteous and professional, all the time, and NOTHING as outlined in the pages before this EVER happened!

Assuming you were behind the bar, how would you know? The bouncers are hardly going to tell everyone how violent or awkward they've been and whenever I've been in the bar's been too busy for the barstaff to pay attention to what the bouncers are doing.

[Flash@TMB]

I know many of the people on this thread that have experienced problems, and I have to say that none of them are people I would ever expect to be thrown out for bad behaviour... and believe me I have seen them in the terminal stages of pishedness.

If a bouncer genuinely has to chuck someone out then there's a good chance he shouldn't have let that person inside in the first place. So whose fault is that?

TIP: For this reason people may occasionally be refused entry if the bouncer is unsure of them. How they react to that news is very important. If they show good grace and acceptance, then there's a chance the bouncer might change his mind. But more often than not, the response justifies the original decsion.

If a boncer does ask you to leave, then you stand more chance of getting back in by saying "OK I'll go" and just walking straight out. Don't try to delay things by finishing drinks, or going to the toilet. Never turn your back on the bounder either. If you need your coat then say "OK I'll leave straight away, but please could we get my jacket first?"

Arguing only makes things worse. The bouncer's driver will be to avoid a scene. So by going quietly you are actually helping him, which may ironically help curry some favour.

Once you get outside, then as innocently an calmly as possible ask the bouncer why you were asked to leave. If it sounds bogus then say "I think maybe you got the wrong person, would you mind checking with the barstaff?" If any of your mates start chipping in then tell them to back off.

If the bouncer starts to assualt you, then do not resist, but shout at the top of your lungs "HELP I AM BEING ASSAULTED". But only do this if you are genuinely being treated roughly for no good reason.

Never:

Threaten the bouncer.
Take it's photo with your phone.
Note down it's licence number unless something serious has happened.
Say "do you know who I am?"
Hit anything, even out of frustration (although I know this can be difficult).

If you feel really strongly, then there are many safe and stealthy ways you can get your own back next week... that is if you still feel the same way a week later. Think about it!

Originally Posted by inc18457

perhaps recently standards in doorstaff have slipped, but when i worked there, all the doorstaff were courteous and professional, all the time, and NOTHING as outlined in the pages before this EVER happened!

Originally Posted by Brother Elwood

Blinkered much?

please read the above or continue to bash ahead incorrectly. as i said, in MY TIME working there, nothing of a serious and out of order nature happened.

Originally Posted by Chris

Assuming you were behind the bar, how would you know? The bouncers are hardly going to tell everyone how violent or awkward they've been and whenever I've been in the bar's been too busy for the barstaff to pay attention to what the bouncers are doing.

unlike any bars you may have worked in, the bar staff and door staff were very close at tks. pretty much anything of note/of interest/out of the ordinary/violent was always discussed at length after work, when tidying up etc. but as i said, nothing of a pointlessly violent nature ever occurred in my time, so back off, big balls.

[Chris]

Originally Posted by inc18457

unlike any bars you may have worked in, the bar staff and door staff were very close at tks. pretty much anything of note/of interest/out of the ordinary/violent was always discussed at length after work, when tidying up etc. but as i said, nothing of a pointlessly violent nature ever occurred in my time, so back off, big balls.

Sorry but I'm still not convinced. If someone acts like a dick and throws someone out using excessive violence or refuses entry to someone for no good reason they're not going to tell you about it are they? Because they're just going to look like arseholes.

"You should have seen me earlier tonight, this stone cold sober guy came up to the door and I told him he wasn't getting in 'cause he was too drunk! What a laugh!"

Don't think so.

[Alkaline]

Originally Posted by inc18457

unlike any bars you may have worked in, the bar staff and door staff were very close at tks. pretty much anything of note/of interest/out of the ordinary/violent was always discussed at length after work, when tidying up etc. but as i said, nothing of a pointlessly violent nature ever occurred in my time, so back off, big balls.

Unless you saw the cctv footage or the event itself there's no way you can 100% rely on what someone just 'says'. You aren't thinking about this logically.

Sure, the majority of bouncers are great, friendly guys and gals but like all jobs there are a few cunts who've slipped through and really shouldn't be doing the job. If you think there aren't you really are an idiot.

[Jan Deal]

Originally Posted by inc18457

...so back off, big balls.

Nice use of the phrase big balls there...

this is possibly the most pointless argument/discussion since "are the beatles overrated?".

i know what i've heard/said. you don't.

you have your opinions, which i'm not going to change.

i'm out of here.