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[blackened]

Originally Posted by Jamie

We do care what customers think though, and keep tabs on this forum.

Exactly - venues will always listen to their customers! But I don't want the opinions to be limited to a couple of people who didn't like us. There were a large number of people there who appreciated both bands, and unfortunately, their opinions are absent from this forum. I don't want a venue's decision to be made on just 2 or 3 opinions, which in my view, is not reflective of the entire crowd.

[HateEvent]

Just curious - What was your setlist? I wanna find other people so I can start a Metallica tribute band myself!

[OUSY]

i agree with blackened, being in a band should be about having fun, sure you should be able to play the songs but does anyone really care about a couple of screw ups?and especially a tribute band,i mean come on are you expecting them to sound and act exactly the same as the band they are covering?,if this is the case you need to go see the original band,otherwise shut the f**k up!!

[fundametal]

Quality night IMO - sound was a bit shakey in places but the guys put on a top performance. Well worth seeing again.,

[blackened]

Cheers for your comments OUSY!!! I totally agree!

[Biz]

Unfortunately a hell of a lot of the posts here are very negative,and often do not give a balanced opinion of the events that actually happened,they are great fun to read though and should be taken with a pinch of salt.

[Tav]

Originally Posted by blackened

I wish you had missed it too!
I don't see why you have such a vendetta against us!

I don't have a vendetta I was just calling it how I saw it. I am sure you are good guys.

If some people wanna just stand at the back and bitch about the solos not being just quite right, then we can't help that - we can't please everyone!

We were right at the front...at the barrier. Its not that the solos "weren't quite right" it was the fact that they went like this "3 notes....pause...pause...2 notes...ermmm how does it go?.....oh I'll just waggle the whammy bar....phew!"

If all you want to do is nit-pick then be my guest, but you won't really achieve anything with unconstructive criticism.

I am not nit picking...nit picking would be saying you didn't quite manage the 3rd passage in the classical one solo...I was pointing out serious flaws!

Also, about the 4/4 drumming? That is just fucking bollocks! You can't do the instrumental bit of Blackened in 4/4 - open your ears man! We have the drum-tab book - we know!

I was exagerating a point there...a lot of the set appeared to be in standard beats...non of the Lars big back beats...sly chyna hits and general energy...it was there but it wasn't Lars by any stretch of the imagination

What you should do is get a recording of your selves then you can listen back and see what it sounds like...I don't want to continue posting arguments over and over again. I thought you were sub standard as did the 5 other people I was with...only two of which were guitarists.

If the Lemon Tree didn't invite you back I am sure it would have nothing to do with me. They can make up their own minds. If they did ask you back make sure you get a mini disk connected to that sound board...

[Mac Atom]

What a crock of shite! Since when were you not allowed to post negative opinions about a gig? If Blackened were a local band chucking their toys out of the pram over a mere opinion then all of the usual suspects would be on here giving the old "you shouldn't be up on stage if you can't handle criticism" routine. Sorry but everyone is entitled to give an opinion.

I reckon there are a lot of tribute bands out there who are making a killing out of these kinds of tours (I don't mean Blackened), I know for a fact that when we played with Black McSabbath at Kef they charged the venue an arm and a leg and they were utter bollocks (a complete embarrasment if I'm being honest). If people had heard an honest reveiw beforehand then they may have thought twice before heading down. Don't get me wrong, tribute bands can be ace (and I wasn't at the Blackened show so I can't comment on their performance) Sabbath Bloody Sabbath were fantastic when I saw them and Hi-On Maiden certainly play a good show.

[Frosty Jack]

Originally Posted by Mac Atom

What a crock of shite! Since when were you not allowed to post negative opinions about a gig? If Blackened were a local band chucking their toys out of the pram over a mere opinion then all of the usual suspects would be on here giving the old "you shouldn't be up on stage if you can't handle criticism" routine. Sorry but everyone is entitled to give an opinion.

Indeed. There was nothing 'unconstructive' in Tav's post that I could see, just offering points that could be improved from the paying punters point of view - always worth taking note of. And the day that we're not allowed to criticise bands on here is the day I hand in my Staff badge and Delete button.

I reckon there are a lot of tribute bands out there who are making a killing out of these kinds of tours

Absolutely. It always pisses me of that tribute bands seem to get huge crowds and a massive response regardless of how shite they really are, from gullible punters who are basically pretending they're watching someone else. I've seen a few who, if they weren't calling themselves 'xxxxx's finest tribute act' would get laughed out of the Malt Mill.

Originally Posted by OUSY

and especially a tribute band,i mean come on are you expecting them to sound and act exactly the same as the band they are covering?

Well... yes. That's the whole point. If you're calling yourself a tribute act then you're pulling a crowd based on the fact that you will be as close as possible to the real thing. If you don't think you have to bother trying that hard, then advertise yourself truthfully as a covers band, then see how full your gigs are.

[blackened]

First of all - I am not saying people shouldn't post criticism if they didn't like a band! I do believe Tav's reaction to be quite an extreme opposite to the reaction we got from the crowd.

Sure, we have played one or two gigs in the past where we reeked and knew it, and we could tell from the crowd's reaction. But this one we really enjoyed, everyone seemed up for it, and we responded to them by giving them a lot of energy, and i for one would rather fuck stuff up and put on a lively show, than bury my head in the guitar. Sorry for all those who expect everything note-perfect, but hey, even Metallica fuck their parts up!

Another thing that gets my goat up is people commenting who weren't even there; who are basically responding, and in a way, supporting the bad comments. Also, I agree that there is a difference between tributes and cover bands, but what other Metallica tribute bands have you seen?

Okay, maybe Tav offered bits of constructive criticism, but I thought it was very extreme, and basically boils down to him not wanting to pay £9 to see two bands, one of which he missed. Please remember, WE DO NOT SET THIS! I had punters coming up to me afterwards saying they would have paid £9 alone just to see us!!!

I don't want to say that one person's opinion is better than another's, but remember, there were a lot of opinions floating around that gig no doubt. But this thread is dominated by an extremely negative reaction from one or two people, with agreement from others, some who weren't there. This isn't reflective of the crowd reaction as a whole.

Both Motorheadache and ourselves were having problems with the sound all night, ie. monitoring issues, not being able to hear each other, which would obviously have an effect on anyone's performance. I personally was able to hear the drums and my guitar and vocals, and it sounded pretty good to me onstage. However, we did get a minidisc of it, and I have listened to it back, and I must say that the sound you were getting out there was shoddy, and no way near the sound we usually get!!!

I apologise for a shit sound, but it wasn't us behind the mixing desk!! Yet more excuses, I know...