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[carbonpie]

Hi guys, if it's ok can i ask some questions about how you finish your produtions? please note this is for a portfolio for my college course!

Do you produce you music at home?
To master your track, do you send you production to mastering houses or do you do it your self?
What equippment do you use for your work?
how far would you travel if you wanted to use an on-demand studio with help from a qualified engineer?
how much would you pay if you wanted to use an on-demand studio with help from a qualified engineer?
for each of your productions, how much do you earn?

Any answers to any of the questions would be greatly appreciated.
cheers!

[Fraser Mac]

Take it your in the HNC Sound Production Class? haha

[Pierre Von Mondragon]

Ah yes the Music Education system just keeps grinding out people there are no jobs for, SAE in Glasgow churns out 50+ a year, also Stow College, multiply by the number of population centres that have such courses, how many professional studios can this country support, nae that many. Good skills to learn for making music, not for making a living though. Personally I think you would be better spending course fees etc on your own set up, then learning how to use it well. In this field experience trumps study every time, not to mention contacts. I'm sure its at least fun, but is that worth the time and investment? Your call.

[Fraser Mac]

Originally Posted by Pierre Von Mondragon

Ah yes the Music Education system just keeps grinding out people there are no jobs for, SAE in Glasgow churns out 50+ a year, also Stow College, multiply by the number of population centres that have such courses, how many professional studios can this country support, nae that many. Good skills to learn for making music, not for making a living though. Personally I think you would be better spending course fees etc on your own set up, then learning how to use it well. In this field experience trumps study every time, not to mention contacts. I'm sure its at least fun, but is that worth the time and investment? Your call.

I think you'll find that if this is for the HNC Course, then these questions will apply to a hypothetical studio and market research for it.

As for the rest of your Statement, i disagree,

yes there are alot less studios than sound engineers, but those with talent are going to get jobs. and those without out the ability to work well in a studio/live situation arnt going to last long.

I think its incredibly stupid to say that if your going to SAE or Stow you should take your fees and spend it elsewere. These places are the best to move on and learn more in your field.

[Stupot]

Originally Posted by Pierre Von Mondragon

Ah yes the Music Education system just keeps grinding out people there are no jobs for, SAE in Glasgow churns out 50+ a year, also Stow College, multiply by the number of population centres that have such courses, how many professional studios can this country support, nae that many. Good skills to learn for making music, not for making a living though. Personally I think you would be better spending course fees etc on your own set up, then learning how to use it well. In this field experience trumps study every time, not to mention contacts. I'm sure its at least fun, but is that worth the time and investment? Your call.

And yet The Warehouse Theatre in Lossiemouth is always struggling to find sound engineers who know their way round a big live sound desk because they're always busy elsewhere.
They need someone to engineer Po'Girl this Saturday. I'm going down to sound check them but can't do the show as I have a gig, but will set the desk up as a unity gain mix. If you know what that means then there's a job for someone that night.

[Pierre Von Mondragon]

a) Well thats Lossie, small place=less competition.
b) I'm referring more to Recording Studios than live work, but a lot of these courses don't cover live work.
c) I've been in SAE for a look and some (free)sessions, decent set up, but I don't think its worth the astronomical fees, and I have heard better bedroom productions, FACT, no amount of stating the obvious changes this.

[John W]

Originally Posted by Pierre Von Mondragon

a) Well thats Lossie, small place=less competition.
b) I'm referring more to Recording Studios than live work, but a lot of these courses don't cover live work.
c) I've been in SAE for a look and some (free)sessions, decent set up, but I don't think its worth the astronomical fees, and I have heard better bedroom productions, FACT, no amount of stating the obvious changes this.

The aberdeen HNC convers alot of live work, i'm not even doing it till September but there seems alot of it and i can't wait!
I'm not doing this so i can head off into the great wide open world and try make a career, i'm doing the course because i find it interesting and love to learn about it.
But i do see your original point.

[Pierre Von Mondragon]

Free Will* is a wonderful thing, I just tend to think there are/will be a lot of dissapointed people without the jobs they think exist, that don't. The democratisation of means of production has meant that more people are capable of having their own facilities, and this impacts on available studio work. The current increase in interest in live music is also possibly cyclical as well, it wasn't that many years ago that the sale of decks overtook that of guitars, as the wheel goes round so things change (and yet stay the same), the key is to do what you really want, not what you think you should want.

I suspect this has strayed off topic so will say no more, I don't want to fall into the trap of taking the internet seriously.

*Unlike Free Hat.

[Fraser Mac]

Originally Posted by Pierre Von Mondragon

the key is to do what you really want, not what you think you should want.

See the post above your last one.



I dont think your understanding why the origional post was made, hes doing the graded unit in aberdeen college,
which involves doing a write up about setting up a studio, how you would go about doing it etc,

As for the comments about SAE, are you even aware its an educational facility? if you look at the people that have come out of SAE and some of the work they have gone on to do, how can you say its not worth the fee's?

These people are making a living off of somthing they love doing, and for those that havnt gone on to work in the industry, i doubt they would spend the money on the course to then realise they actually dont enjoy sound production as much as they though.

most will be active in the music buisness in some way,

[RockAustin]

I would say that if you are focused, the chance to give yourself the unlimited time you get as a full time student would be amazing. Trying to cram learning production, playing in bands and organising gig stuff after work, although rewarding, at times can get pretty hard going. I would love to have more time to spend on all the different aspects music has to offer, and if I had the money would consider uni/college course an option. Think if you put the time, effort and networking in, these couses are not just money down the drain.