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[idol_wild]

Yes! Thwesound engineer will record and mix the live set for a fee. Do it.

I will try and make it down to check the set out.

[milner]

Originally Posted by Alkaline

And now it all makes sense

finally
lets keep it between us eh ??? lol

[Alkaline]

Originally Posted by milner

finally
lets keep it between us eh ??? lol

Haha, i knew who was in the band i twigged it was before, but i didn't associate the username with the band despite it being blatantly obvious.

I am a slow one indeed

[Lucky Rathen]

Originally Posted by Alkaline

Haha, i knew who was in the band i twigged it was before, but i didn't associate the username with the band despite it being blatantly obvious.

I am a slow one indeed

It's OK I didn't get it either, until this week I got a text from a member of ASFG saying "So ASFG might be a bunh of drunken knobheads eh?" Then it twigged who they were.

[GraemeC]

Originally Posted by idol_wild

And if a promoter doesn't care what an artist or band sounds like then why are they promoting? If a promoter doesn't really care what you sound like then I suggest you're playing gigs for the wrong promoters.

I realise this post makes me sound really arrogant. It's not meant to, but it's the only way I have of articulating my point. I, personally, as a live music promoter, would never book a band if they didn't have recordings accessible online, unless I had seem them perform live before or they went to the trouble of contacting me to offer a CD or an MP3 of at least one or two songs.

Having managed a band a few years ago who couldnt take all the gigs they were offered by promoters who didnt like their music but loved the crowd who did (Slipstream), I find your post to be flawed. I believe the job of a promoter is to book bands who people want to hear and will help fill a venue, they will bring their own crowd for the first gig or two and if they are any good then the future looks after itself.... so no demo required!!!

[idol_wild]

Originally Posted by GraemeC

Having managed a band a few years ago who couldnt take all the gigs they were offered by promoters who didnt like their music but loved the crowd who did (Slipstream), I find your post to be flawed. I believe the job of a promoter is to book bands who people want to hear and will help fill a venue, they will bring their own crowd for the first gig or two and if they are any good then the future looks after itself.... so no demo required!!!

Perhaps that attitude and approach is appropriate for inhouse venue promoters. Where, essentially, profit is involved.

Not DIY promoters. DIY promoters book bands because they like the bands and want to support them and help them and hope that others who come will like them.

[RF Scott]

Originally Posted by GraemeC

Having managed a band a few years ago who couldnt take all the gigs they were offered by promoters who didnt like their music but loved the crowd who did (Slipstream), I find your post to be flawed. I believe the job of a promoter is to book bands who people want to hear and will help fill a venue, they will bring their own crowd for the first gig or two and if they are any good then the future looks after itself.... so no demo required!!!

I think you're getting 'booker' and 'promoter' confused. Also, what if a promoter is looking for a local support for a pretty good touring band? Without a demo or anything like that, they could be any old dogshit (sure, they could be any old dogshit WITH a demo, but it certainly cuts down the chances), making the promoter look ill-informed to the touring band and their crew (TM, etc). Bringing 'their own crowd' isn't a given either.

[GraemeC]

Originally Posted by idol_wild

Perhaps that attitude and approach is appropriate for inhouse venue promoters. Where, essentially, profit is involved.

Not DIY promoters. DIY promoters book bands because they like the bands and want to support them and help them and hope that others who come will like them.

That may be the case with a number of promoters but in my experience I stick with my previous post...

[GraemeC]

Originally Posted by RF Scott

I think you're getting 'booker' and 'promoter' confused. Also, what if a promoter is looking for a local support for a pretty good touring band? Without a demo or anything like that, they could be any old dogshit (sure, they could be any old dogshit WITH a demo, but it certainly cuts down the chances), making the promoter look ill-informed to the touring band and their crew (TM, etc). Bringing 'their own crowd' isn't a given either.

Any promoter with half a brain will of course book a band that he knows is half decent and has a lot of friends to support a touring band with unknown pulling power.
Booking a band for their first gig without hearing what they sound like is no real risk, its in the bands best interest to be as good as they can be and to drag all their mates/relatives along for the show....I know from vast experience by the way, im not just making this up...

[RF Scott]

Originally Posted by GraemeC

Any promoter with half a brain will of course book a band that he knows is half decent and has a lot of friends to support a touring band with unknown pulling power.
Booking a band for their first gig without hearing what they sound like is no real risk, its in the bands best interest to be as good as they can be and to drag all their mates/relatives along for the show....I know from vast experience by the way, im not just making this up...

In theory a promoter should be booking a band that he/she knows is half decent, but the reality is a lot different! The amount of times I've seen an absolutely terrible local support (not just in Aberdeen) that doesn't fit the bill or audience at all, with no audience of their own, is pretty shocking.

It is a risk though! Bands can be pretty clueless, it's not a given that their friends and family will come along (they might not even have many friends!), so it's obviously a risk. I could just make up a band with no recordings, book a gig, and spend the duration of my 'set' picking my nose and polishing my shoes, and not bring along any friends/family. Like I said before, it's still a risk booking a new band that has a demo (being that bands can vary A LOT between the live/recorded domains), it's just not as much of a risk as booking a band who don't have anything at all.

Also, please don't pull the 'vast experience' thing, it's a bit patronising!