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[lame guitarist]

Originally Posted by Lucky Rathen

Yeah that's a fair point. OK let me retract that and say that Steve Vai can certainly play, but I'd rather chop my ears off than sit through another one of his self indulgent wank marathons....

to me i personally would prefer the boy joe satriani over vai. vais songs are more filled with flash stuff and all that but satriani has more melody and theme is his songs.

[Lucky Rathen]

Originally Posted by lame guitarist

its personal opinion - i mean like world class musos that play classical. they cut their teeth on bach and all that. Same with guitarists, when i took lessons and learned theory i learned and analysed stuff by other people to get my technical ability up and learned about the song structures other people had. look at hendrix and all that, he learned all the old blues legends songs. whether you like it or not its what a lot of people do.

I could never sit now and learn something note for note. at my age improvising is the key cos you forget things very easily

ah 80's hair metal, i remember being a part of that and partly responsible for the ozone layer declining

I took the lazy route when I was learning guitar, not through choice but just because I had a really bad teacher, who negated to teach me any theory, or how to read music, or any scales, or any techniques etc... all he did was put on a CD of a band he liked, then show me how to play the songs on the album. I remember thinking at the time there's got to be more to it, but I was only 14 so I didn't argue... as a result I'm not nearly as good as I could be, (though I'm certainly not a bad guitarist) though to be honest that was 14 years ago, and I could have taught myself musical theory by now. I have tried, I just find it really boring.

[Chris]

Originally Posted by lame guitarist

anyone had bad experiances of breaking a string on stage with them??
i dont think i could ever go back to one nowadays.

I had a floyd rose a few years ago. Loved the guitar but the damn strings kept breaking at the lock on the bridge, had it checked over and everything seemed ok but it jus kept happening as the strings came up to tension. Got to the stage that I had no confidence in the guitar at all so I sold it. Shame, as it was a great guitar ruined by the floyd rose.

[Lucky Rathen]

Originally Posted by Chris

I had a floyd rose a few years ago. Loved the guitar but the damn strings kept breaking at the lock on the bridge, had it checked over and everything seemed ok but it jus kept happening as the strings came up to tension. Got to the stage that I had no confidence in the guitar at all so I sold it. Shame, as it was a great guitar ruined by the floyd rose.

Was that your ESP?

[Chris]

Originally Posted by Lucky Rathen

Was that your ESP?

Yeah my old one. Got a hardtail ESP these days (well they're both ESP LTDs before HateEvent gets anal about it).

[Lucky Rathen]

Originally Posted by Chris

Yeah my old one. Got a hardtail ESP these days (well they're both ESP LTDs before HateEvent gets anal about it).

I'm playing one of these these days - Spear T-200 spec I'd never heard of them before but it's a great guitar and it's plays beautifully, only about £300 as well.

[HateEvent]

Originally Posted by Chris

Yeah my old one. Got a hardtail ESP these days (well they're both ESP LTDs before HateEvent gets anal about it).

[Hogisbald]

Originally Posted by HateEvent

Anal boy

[HateEvent]

Originally Posted by Chris

I had a floyd rose a few years ago. Loved the guitar but the damn strings kept breaking at the lock on the bridge, had it checked over and everything seemed ok but it jus kept happening as the strings came up to tension. Got to the stage that I had no confidence in the guitar at all so I sold it. Shame, as it was a great guitar ruined by the floyd rose.

Licensed floyds are notorious for strings snapping at the bridge as there is a sharp point that has come up at your saddles. Because they are constructed with less quality than the Original Floyd Rose system, there are nuances that crop up, this being a common one. Another common one is not returning perfectly to a 'zero' point because the knife-edge pivot point gets worn easily (lesser quality metal again) and the stability suffers.

Again, I can't praise the OFRs enough, I've been using them for 5 years without a single issue. I'm quite harsh on them aswell. Never had tuning issues, string snapping problems, anything.

If you want another guitar with a floyd, get an OFR, you won't regret it

[Chris]

Originally Posted by HateEvent

If you want another guitar with a floyd, get an OFR, you won't regret it

I'll bear it in mind but I don't use the trem enough to need the benefits of a floyd rose (hence this whole thread) at the moment. Much rather have the tone and sustain benefits of a fixed bridge.