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[Stripey]

I don't see the point in doing this kind of thing live atall. What will you do that goes beyond the average kind of thing you can acheive while djing with ableton live and a midi controller? IMO it's just sophistry and has no real value. I hate the notion that music = theatre and that isn't what electronic music is about atall. I like to hear wicked tunes being played out but I don't want to pay to see the artist recreate a sloppy version of it on stage so he can earn a fiver.

[RockAustin]

Originally Posted by Stripey

I don't see the point in doing this kind of thing live atall. What will you do that goes beyond the average kind of thing you can acheive while djing with ableton live and a midi controller? IMO it's just sophistry and has no real value. I hate the notion that music = theatre and that isn't what electronic music is about atall. I like to hear wicked tunes being played out but I don't want to pay to see the artist recreate a sloppy version of it on stage so he can earn a fiver.

Fair enough. That is maybe not what it is about to you. But I want to make music that is designed to be performed live and not a sloppy version of something I made on my computer that is fiddled around with a bit. You wouldn't say, why not just make a mix in your house using ableton live and a midi controller rather than having a DJ. It is good to see that effort goes into the music in one form or another.

[KimyReizeger]

Originally Posted by Stripey

What will you do that goes beyond the average kind of thing you can acheive while djing with ableton live and a midi controller? I like to hear wicked tunes being played out but I don't want to pay to see the artist recreate a sloppy version of it on stage so he can earn a fiver.

I think it entails a different creation process, therefore a different type of music.

that isn't what electronic music is about atall

How can you throw absolutes around so willingly? If something makes sound it can be subject to a stage and I'm not really concerned with conforming to any limited notion of what music is about. Live music is about fun, atmosphere and intimacy, but if you see no value in these then I guess your message transgresses genre and the debate ends. Why do people go to a Beethoven recital when they have perfectly good hi-fis at home?

[Stripey]

Originally Posted by RockAustin

Fair enough. That is maybe not what it is about to you. But I want to make music that is designed to be performed live and not a sloppy version of something I made on my computer that is fiddled around with a bit. You wouldn't say, why not just make a mix in your house using ableton live and a midi controller rather than having a DJ. It is good to see that effort goes into the music in one form or another.

From my point of view, I want to make good tunes and the "live" aspect comes from how people might use that tune in a dj set or whatever.
I think a lot of this challenges the traditional notion of what music, and clubs are for. It is wierd enough as it is that DJ's are a focal point, maybe if you removed that and just had a bloody ipod pumping out the tunes people would lose that focal point and be forced to look back at themselves.
I really just do not see any point in performing this stuff live other than theatre and egotism.

[RockAustin]

Originally Posted by KimyReizeger

Oh and on the subject of live electronic music; check this out:

YouTube - Re: Denkitribe's "Kalimba with KP3"

Fucking fantastic tune!

That is ace! Electirbe looks like it would be fun to play with, would be good if you pick one up second hand...

Check this one out. Along the same lines as what I'm planning and they're using MPC.

YouTube - Simon Stokes & Mr Copy - Live Techno Jam 1

[KimyReizeger]

Originally Posted by RockAustin

That is ace! l]

Yeah I love it - classy and measured.

[RockAustin]

Originally Posted by KimyReizeger

I'm an external soundcard away from being at least technically able to perform live. Got a bit of cash atm so might delve into some other cheap, interesting bits and pieces...something others don't have possibly, which I haven't found yet

I don't know how much these cost but just came across it. Analogue with digital effects. Looks really cool.
YouTube - Future Retro Revolution as an Audio Processor

There are some amazing synths and bits of hardware out there. Quite like the look of the Spectralis and the Sunsyn, unfortunately they are probably extremely expensive!

[betamax]

MPCs are great live. Its what they are designed for. Loads of flexibility, proper human/machine interface and ways of improvising everything on the fly. Add a few hardware synths and periferals with knobs and you are into sound creation chaos. Anything can happen. Thats more live than a rehearsed band imo. PCs however should be outlawed for the creation or performance of music and are the domain of homos.

[RockAustin]

Originally Posted by betamax

MPCs are great live. Its what they are designed for. Loads of flexibility, proper human/machine interface and ways of improvising everything on the fly. Add a few hardware synths and periferals with knobs and you are into sound creation chaos. Anything can happen. Thats more live than a rehearsed band imo. PCs however should be outlawed for the creation or performance of music and are the domain of homos.

Hey, been a while! Got the virus hooked up to the MPC 2500 (not quite the power of your beast) along with various other synths + mixer and Kaoss pad. Just got a kaossilator yesterday so will try and work that into the mix as well. Started doing some live sampling onto the kaoss pad layering up melodies along with some sequences on the virus. You can create some decent mixes by gradually replacing the samples you created on the kaoss pad and the sequences on the virus, was totally improvised when doing it but sounds nice! Hopefully getting another sequencer into play soon too.

Got anything new on the cards??