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[britheguy]

Originally Posted by Alkaline

Haha, that's a veritable feast of audio rape.

Surely it's horses for courses. Okay there are probably several trillion various patch paths etc, but there must be a few that would sound ok.

[jamesbroonbreed]

probably not though

[Alkaline]

Originally Posted by jamesbroonbreed

probably not though

Agreed, i never got anything that great out of mine.

It serves purpose as a dust magnet/occasional practice amp in my living room these days.

[Huw]

Originally Posted by Alkaline

Agreed, i never got anything that great out of mine.

yeah, even the line 6 alone is difficult to get anything resembling a good sound out of. coupled with the zoom you could definitely get some strange sounds, but i think to label it good, well just no.

so has anybody tried these things? Damage Control

[Alkaline]

Originally Posted by Huw [Fault&Fracture]

yeah, even the line 6 alone is difficult to get anything resembling a good sound out of. coupled with the zoom you could definitely get some strange sounds, but i think to label it good, well just no.

so has anybody tried these things? Damage Control

I know mate, i've been playing guitar a little longer than a few seconds so i have tried a few different things with it over the years

[britheguy]

I had a flextone plus combo, c/w ext cab. I got some very usable sounds out of it. Wish I had not sold it now. Oh well!

However, I do find it strange how Line 6 used to go on about not needing valves etc, and now make amps with valves in them.

[Original Spies]

I used to have a Marshall Valvestate head. I used to tell people it was awesome. When I got a valve amp, I realised why they thought I was an idiot.

[britheguy]

Originally Posted by Original Spies

I used to have a Marshall Valvestate head. I used to tell people it was awesome. When I got a valve amp, I realised why they thought I was an idiot.

I had a Valvestate 8080 (I think that's what the model was) combo, and I thought is was pretty good as well. Not sure if people thought I was an idiot though. I think, as I said above, that it's horses for courses.

I think there's way too much snobs involved in the guitar world. For instance my two favourite sounding/playing guitars at the moment are my Epi SG (Thanks GASS) with Wizard Spellbinder pickups fitted which cost me about 180 in all. I did back to back test with a Gibson SG with standard p-ups, and also a Gibson 61 RI. The Epi sounded better than both of them IMO. The second is what I think to be one of the bargains of the decade so far...my Gibson Melodymaker c/w P90 pickup. Purchased new from Bruce Millers ABZ for 275 after it lay in the shop for about 2 years or something. Now why was it so cheap? Well IMO it was a Plain Jane to look at so no one thought 'that would good on stage at the Tunnels'. However it sounds/plays great for my punk and rock & roll type music.
So that makes the two guitars come to about 455 quid. Not bad I think.

Now, I could have spent well over a grand to get the same tones as I've got with the two above guitar. But, if I had done that some folk would have called me an idiot.

[lame guitarist]

i agree with you there that yeah you do get snobs that would look down their nose at anything under a grand but sometimes its the other way. you get folk that will call you an idiot if you buy anything over a grand!
nothing wrong with paying for quality if you want it and people shouldnt be discriminated for it and theres nothing wrong with quality inexpensive gear either.
anyway speaking of line 6 - i have a flextone amp that i use at home or at practices now and again and its a great piece of kit for the money. you can get some real nice sounds from it. apparently they have now been bought over or in partnership with bogner

[Dan Atom]

Originally Posted by lame guitarist

i agree with you there that yeah you do get snobs that would look down their nose at anything under a grand but sometimes its the other way. you get folk that will call you an idiot if you buy anything over a grand!
nothing wrong with paying for quality if you want it and people shouldnt be discriminated for it and theres nothing wrong with quality inexpensive gear either.

I'd say it is all relevant the level of use you get out of it. My squire strat and zoom 505 did me a great service in bedroom playing (although that was about 9 years ago now!).

And I've seen people make average set-ups sound great, and amazing set-ups sound terrible. Decent playing, and knowing how to get the tone you want is far more imortant than having a £4k rig.