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Old 09-01-2008, 23:03   #1 (permalink)
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the person selling one in the trading post has sparked interest.

they are tuned to BEADG as standard, correct?

my band tune CGCFAD. I find even with heavier gauge strings my strings are bit slack on a 4-string. is there any tunings i could use that would work with the guitars... could you tune it up? or is a step and a half too much of a push for the high strings?

there will be no standard tuning... please do not suggest!
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get a 5 string

leave the B, replace the E,A,G,D with heavier gauge

then tune it thickest to lowest the same as guitars,

tune up for the B to the C, then down for the rest

that will sort out the slackness and the tuning


our bassist uses his 5 or 6 string like this for when we play in C#/F#/B/E/G#/C# and B/F#/B/E/G#/C#


also i you tune up its gonna be in the same octave as the guitars
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get a 5 string

leave the B, replace the E,A,G,D with heavier gauge

then tune it thickest to lowest the same as guitars,

tune up for the B to the C, then down for the rest

that will sort out the slackness and the tuning


our bassist uses his 5 or 6 string like this for when we play in C#/F#/B/E/G#/C# and B/F#/B/E/G#/C#


also i you tune up its gonna be in the same octave as the guitars
is E going DOWN to G not going to create slackness? Its like is it not like 9 semitones?!

what are 6 string basses tuned to?
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on the five string you are tuning it the same as the guitar barr their thinnest string

instead of having the low b added on to standard tuning your moving the note down the strings basiscalyl is will play like a 4 string with the added higher string,

the thickest string leave on, tuned up to C , then with the standard strings g/c/f/a which usualaly are e/a/d/g. the E has already been used with the thick string and tuned to C so the E sring your using as an A so tune it one step down,

yes tuned up
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B up to C
E down to G
A down to C
D down to F
G down to A

or am i being spastic?
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B up to C
E down to G
A down to C
D down to F
G down to A

or am i being spastic?
Thats what i was gonna do.

and regarding what 6ers are tuned to as standard, i think its BEADGC, i cant think what else it could be...EADGCF or something?
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Thats what i was gonna do.
sure that'll sort out string slackness?
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There are two common ways of tuning a 5 string bass

G
D
A
E
B

the B is added to the bottom gives you 5 extra lower notes below the E.

the second one

C
G
D
A
E

this way the e is on the bottom and you have the extra 5th string on the top giving you 5 extra higher notes than the usual G

the way you need to set up the five string is like the second one, then down tune each string individually to the desired pitch.

C down to A
G down to F
D down to C
A down to G
E down to C

since usually the tuning for a 5th string is having the lower B below the E, using the second way of tuning using the 5th to add higher notes moves the open notes of the strings down each string

1 2
G----C down to A
D----G down to F
A----D down to C
E----A down to G
B----E down to C

so the notes moving down the strings will compensate for the slackness involved in downt tuning

hope it helps
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sure that'll sort out string slackness?
Couldn't tell ya mate, i was just gonna do it rather than have my bass tuned BCGCF (i dont go lower than C with this band so i just left it), i was gonna take the A and use that for mirroring the guitar better.

But pauls answer seems decent (from having a quick glance.)
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Couldn't tell ya mate, i was just gonna do it rather than have my bass tuned BCGCF (i dont go lower than C with this band so i just left it), i was gonna take the A and use that for mirroring the guitar better.

But pauls answer seems decent (from having a quick glance.)
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There are two common ways of tuning a 5 string bass

G
D
A
E
B

the B is added to the bottom gives you 5 extra lower notes below the E.

the second one

C
G
D
A
E

this way the e is on the bottom and you have the extra 5th string on the top giving you 5 extra higher notes than the usual G

the way you need to set up the five string is like the second one, then down tune each string individually to the desired pitch.

C down to A
G down to F
D down to C
A down to G
E down to C

since usually the tuning for a 5th string is having the lower B below the E, using the second way of tuning using the 5th to add higher notes moves the open notes of the strings down each string

1 2
G----C down to A
D----G down to F
A----D down to C
E----A down to G
B----E down to C

so the notes moving down the strings will compensate for the slackness involved in downt tuning

hope it helps
so i buy a 5 string set up for EADGB (low to high) - instead of BEADG - with heavy guage strings than tune it down to CGCFA?

please tell me i'm right. it took me a long time to get that. i have no idea why.
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