iconAll times are GMT. The time now is 07:32. | Welcome to aberdeen-music! Please register for free in order to access all areas of the web site and to post on our forums.


» Forums » Main Forums » Musicians' Corner » Chromatic Harmonicas

Musicians' Corner Want to discuss what the best guitar amp is or want to offer some advice on playing live? Then please post these kinds of topics in this forum.

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
Old 29-03-2007, 17:51   #1 (permalink)

 
Afro Droid's Avatar

Afro Droid is well respected with 65 reputation points.Afro Droid is well respected with 65 reputation points.Afro Droid is well respected with 65 reputation points.

Profile
location: New Caprica
joined: Sep 2003
posts: 3,074
bands: Afro Droid, Hugh Bruise
talents: Star Wars Trivia

Default Chromatic Harmonicas

Anyone got one? Are they hard to play? Compared to a regular set key moothie? Inform me!
Afro Droid is offline   Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Old 29-03-2007, 19:27   #2 (permalink)

 
sonhenry's Avatar

sonhenry is on a distinguished road with 12 reputation points.

Profile
location: Aberdeen
joined: Nov 2004
posts: 156
talents: turning wine into water

Default

Depends on the style of music you're after. Most blues guys play them in 3rd position, which is a dorian mode. Not all that hard to get started, but the octaves take work. As for jazz on one? Arrrgh, that's tough work.

If you're amplifying them, it's hard to get a good air-tight seal around the mic to keep it from feeding back, Reeds are real fragile to, not like in a marine band or a blues harp. Easy to damage them if you pull to hard.

That help at all?
sonhenry is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 29-03-2007, 20:22   #3 (permalink)

 
Afro Droid's Avatar

Afro Droid is well respected with 65 reputation points.Afro Droid is well respected with 65 reputation points.Afro Droid is well respected with 65 reputation points.

Profile
location: New Caprica
joined: Sep 2003
posts: 3,074
bands: Afro Droid, Hugh Bruise
talents: Star Wars Trivia

Default

Cheers man, it's for blues/rock sort of stuff.
Afro Droid is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 29-03-2007, 23:33   #4 (permalink)

 
Paulscoconutass's Avatar

Paulscoconutass is well respected with 52 reputation points.Paulscoconutass is well respected with 52 reputation points.Paulscoconutass is well respected with 52 reputation points.

Profile
Male
location: On The Toilet
joined: Aug 2003
posts: 2,558
bands: Onion Terror
talents: Guitar / Vocals

Default

I bought one for a blues rock vibe a few weeks back, but it's tuned to C and no matter what I play it always sounds like a hymn! DON'T BUY C Major ones for blues!
Paulscoconutass is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 29-03-2007, 23:55   #5 (permalink)

 
Frosty Jack's Avatar

Profile
joined: Aug 2003
posts: 2,997
bands: The Lorelei, and...

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Paulscoconutass View Post
I bought one for a blues rock vibe a few weeks back, but it's tuned to C and no matter what I play it always sounds like a hymn! DON'T BUY C Major ones for blues!
Sure it was a chromatic? Or was it a diatonic - the smaller one, like a Blues Harp, or Marine Band etc? If it was, then try playing it along with a tune in the key of G, using the second hole inhaled as the root note. This should produce a bluesy scale in G. If you need a bluesy scale for a tune in C, you need a harp in the key of F.
__________________
The Lorelei
Frosty Jack is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 30-03-2007, 14:48   #6 (permalink)

 
Afro Droid's Avatar

Afro Droid is well respected with 65 reputation points.Afro Droid is well respected with 65 reputation points.Afro Droid is well respected with 65 reputation points.

Profile
location: New Caprica
joined: Sep 2003
posts: 3,074
bands: Afro Droid, Hugh Bruise
talents: Star Wars Trivia

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Paulscoconutass View Post
I bought one for a blues rock vibe a few weeks back, but it's tuned to C and no matter what I play it always sounds like a hymn! DON'T BUY C Major ones for blues!
That doesn't sound like you've got a chromatic harp, with a chromatic you should be able to play in any key.

I have a moothie in C (and in F and G, need one in D), I know what you mean about the churchy sound.
Afro Droid is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 30-03-2007, 14:51   #7 (permalink)

 
soundian's Avatar

soundian is an ambassador of goodwill with 91 reputation points.soundian is an ambassador of goodwill with 91 reputation points.soundian is an ambassador of goodwill with 91 reputation points.soundian is an ambassador of goodwill with 91 reputation points.

Profile
joined: Aug 2003
posts: 2,696

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jonny Lucifer View Post
That doesn't sound like you've got a chromatic harp, with a chromatic you should be able to play in any key.
Yeah, the fact that he calls it a C major harp is a bit of a giveaway on the non-chromaticism.
soundian is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 31-03-2007, 14:56   #8 (permalink)

 
Paulscoconutass's Avatar

Paulscoconutass is well respected with 52 reputation points.Paulscoconutass is well respected with 52 reputation points.Paulscoconutass is well respected with 52 reputation points.

Profile
Male
location: On The Toilet
joined: Aug 2003
posts: 2,558
bands: Onion Terror
talents: Guitar / Vocals

Default

'Tis a Big River Harp by Hohner, sounds nice, but as I said, a little too songs of praise-esque. Never realised how many types of moothies there were. Would a blues one be more expensive? (That one was £15)
Paulscoconutass is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 31-03-2007, 15:05   #9 (permalink)

 
shaun's Avatar

shaun is on a distinguished road with 23 reputation points.

Profile
Male
location: ABBAdeen
joined: Oct 2003
posts: 2,176

Send a message via MSN to shaun
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Paulscoconutass View Post
'Tis a Big River Harp by Hohner, sounds nice, but as I said, a little too songs of praise-esque. Never realised how many types of moothies there were. Would a blues one be more expensive? (That one was £15)
it would just be the same harmonica you have but in a different key, i think?
shaun is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 31-03-2007, 17:11   #10 (permalink)

 
Frosty Jack's Avatar

Profile
joined: Aug 2003
posts: 2,997
bands: The Lorelei, and...

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Paulscoconutass View Post
'Tis a Big River Harp by Hohner, sounds nice, but as I said, a little too songs of praise-esque. Never realised how many types of moothies there were. Would a blues one be more expensive? (That one was £15)
The Big River will do fine for a blues sound, but a C harp won't play blues in C. It will play blues in G. This is because you use the draw (inhale) second hole as the root note of the key, in this case this is a G. Playing the scale from this point will give you the minor 'bluesy' notes you need. This is known as playing '2nd position' or 'cross-harp'. If you take the first hole (blowing) as the root it only plays the notes of the C major scale, hence, churchy. This is 'straight harp'.
So to play cross-harp, you need a harp that is marked in the key 4 notes up from what you want. If you want blues in C, then get a harp tuned to F. Then when you draw on the second hole, you're playing a C, and a bluesy scale from there up.
Not sure if you can get a Big River in F, if not get a Marine Band, a Blues Harp, or a Pro Harp. They're a bit pricier than the Big River, but well worth it.
The other secret to sounding bluesy is to master bending. The draw notes can be sucked in such a way as to 'pull' the note down by a semi-tone or so which you should be able to control , like bending a guitar string, but in reverse. It's hard to describe, but it's essentially done by kinda flattening the back of your tongue as you suck, a bit like playing a jews harp. You just need to practice until you get the feel of it.
If you get a new harp though, best break it in first. Go gentle with it for the first cupla days, and get it broken in before you try bending with it, otherwise it'll just go out of tune.
__________________
The Lorelei
Frosty Jack is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On
Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
chromatic glockenspiel girl anachronism General Discussion 4 29-11-2006 22:34
chromatic scale bitchesbrew Music Discussion 4 23-10-2004 04:40
Chromatic Tuner... Paulscoconutass The Moorings Bar 5 15-08-2004 09:31