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[timson]

ive only ever been to captain toms, but what do people think of musical vision, are they any cheaper, or do they have better equipment?

i apologise if there has been a similar forum

[Frosty Jack]

A quick use of the search facility provides -
Musical Vision

[IamScrooge]

I've used both.
Musical vision is cheaper, especially if you take a 3 hour session instead of a 2 hour iirc.
I'm not sure what amps you get in toms these days, but last time I was there it was still the crappy laney TFs. Musical Vision has always given us at least one JCM900 (with cabs at ear level) - I think theres a roland JC120 there too.
Bass amp in Musical Vision is a soundcity head with a horn load woofer and a 2x12 guitar cab
Drum kits in Toms are excellent imho, always well tuned and sound ace. Drum kit in Musical Vision is in passable condition, its a pearl forum. I'm not sure if you can hire their cymbals.
Vocal amplification in toms is mostly sennheiser mics iirc, some good, some entry level, most people cant tell the difference in the range so results can vary. Desks in toms range from a really old peavey to some not so old peaveys, some rooms have the nice UL/Hisys system and some have crappy sounding speakers.
Vocal amplification in Musical Vision is a modern peavey powered head with hisys speakers, and an assortment of 58, 57 and akg mics.

Its been a couple months since I've been to musical vision and some time since I was last at toms so all this might have changed. Toms gives you a bigger room which is nice for not having to squeeze past the kit and dodge radiators and crap on the floor all the time, and generally has less feedback potential for the vocal mics I reckon. But I reckon Musical Visions solid value for the money.

I think I should also point out that for all time times we've practised there we've only ever been given the same room.

[Camie]

Musical Vision is really great.
Good equipment, great sound and cheaper than Tom's.
There is also sofas and guitar magazines for while you wait!

[J]

I'm sorry but i'm gonna have to disagree.

I used to hate Toms and thus used the Foyer.. The Foyers amps broke down...
So tried the cheap and new musical vision, the engineer on hand was grumpy even though we'd booked 3 hours we set up and within 5 notes through a bass amp it started smoking..... The engineer then took the amp away moaning, we packed up paid for an hour and left.

I would go Toms personally that is from my own experience. However I know those that use Musical Vision regularly and I probaly just caught it all on a bad day.

[Chi 666]

Originally Posted by J

I'm sorry but i'm gonna have to disagree.

I used to hate Toms and thus used the Foyer.. The Foyers amps broke down...
So tried the cheap and new musical vision, the engineer on hand was grumpy even though we'd booked 3 hours we set up and within 5 notes through a bass amp it started smoking..... The engineer then took the amp away moaning, we packed up paid for an hour and left.

I would go Toms personally that is from my own experience. However I know those that use Musical Vision regularly and I probaly just caught it all on a bad day.

i have to agree, toms is really relyable. and plenty of space

[Camie]

Originally Posted by J

I'm sorry but i'm gonna have to disagree.

I used to hate Toms and thus used the Foyer.. The Foyers amps broke down...
So tried the cheap and new musical vision, the engineer on hand was grumpy even though we'd booked 3 hours we set up and within 5 notes through a bass amp it started smoking..... The engineer then took the amp away moaning, we packed up paid for an hour and left.

I would go Toms personally that is from my own experience. However I know those that use Musical Vision regularly and I probaly just caught it all on a bad day.

He was probably moaning becasue the bass amp broke. Most people would.
When did you practice at MV was it a while back?

[J]

Originally Posted by Camie

He was probably moaning becasue the bass amp broke. Most people would.
When did you practice at MV was it a while back?

Ages ago, and no he was moaning as it was 10am lol.. Since then we've started using MV and the rooms are actually pretty sweet acoustically sounds really good.

[tomrogers7]

Originally Posted by J

I'm sorry but i'm gonna have to disagree.

I used to hate Toms and thus used the Foyer.. The Foyers amps broke down...
So tried the cheap and new musical vision, the engineer on hand was grumpy even though we'd booked 3 hours we set up and within 5 notes through a bass amp it started smoking..... The engineer then took the amp away moaning, we packed up paid for an hour and left.

I would go Toms personally that is from my own experience. However I know those that use Musical Vision regularly and I probaly just caught it all on a bad day.

haha your supposed to be careful with those vintage valve amps, there worth quite a fair bit too which is possibly why he was a bit annoyed.

in captin toms ive never used a decent bass amp there, never been able to really hear myself, and you can hear the other bands in other rooms too well. also they kick you out too early never really get into a jam.

cheaper plus better amps and mellow environment ftw

[Chris]

Originally Posted by tomrogers7

also they kick you out too early never really get into a jam.

what do you mean they kick you out too early?