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Old 15-09-2006, 10:57   #1 (permalink)

 
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yo i have a quick question about solos.

i know some scales and the like but im not sure HOW to make a solo up?

Do i just play sporadic notes from the scale or what?

like i can play fills and that and imitate others i see.

oh yeah i play bass but guitarists would be helpful.

cheers for any help
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Could maybe try listening to Stanley Clark??? I think a sense of melody is something that we all have, and improvising scales over some different chord patterns is a great way to practise, your own sense of melody will help you to interpret the good from the bad
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Shamelessly rip off your influences and hope nobody notices

If you know your scales, then making up a solo should be no problem. The blues and pentatonic scales are probably the best place to start, but before you can break the rules you need to know them - eg why certain notes work over certain chords etc.

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awesome cheers for the help
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I only know one scale and i don't even know the name of it. Monkrockers advice is good though.
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I only know one scale and i don't even know the name of it. Monkrockers advice is good though.
Agree with all of the above posts

Listen to the solo in Paranoid as an example of what the guys are talking about. It's got the classic call/response and it's punctuated by a reprise on the main riff - a clever solo.

And as the guys say, listen to the melody and get an idea of what notes & sounds go with - and DEFINITELY rip off other stuff!!!!

As an example I'm putting together a solo for a version of Neil Youngs "Rocking in The Free World" that I'm doing live soon. The original solo is honking, so my mate came up with an intro, I've worked on some widdly bits for the middle and have lifted the bridge section straight out of Montrose's "Space Station #5" to end the solo as it's a perfect fit - easy-peasy lemon squeezy

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Quite a useful way of learning is to record what you are playing - choose a song you like and just solo over the top of it. Then listen back to it a few times with a critical ear. Some of it is likely to be cringeworthy, but you'll find some licks that you like so file them in your repertoire! I learned pretty quickly that I was overplaying sometimes needed to just lay back a bit

(BTW - I'm talking about bass playing)
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^^ thats sorta what i did, the overplaying i mean. i lay back sometimes and go for it at others.

ive been lookin for a decent way of recording myself for a while now, but im kinda skint

anyone recommend any way of recording myself cheaply and decently(ish). i was thinkin one of those retro tape recorder things. but i havent seen one in while
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^^ thats sorta what i did, the overplaying i mean. i lay back sometimes and go for it at others.

ive been lookin for a decent way of recording myself for a while now, but im kinda skint

anyone recommend any way of recording myself cheaply and decently(ish). i was thinkin one of those retro tape recorder things. but i havent seen one in while
Argos do some cheap things that allow you to record. Something like a dictaphone would do.

If thats too expensive am sure you have got a mate with a multi track you could borrow.
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