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Old 16-03-2006, 19:37   #11 (permalink)
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Technical skill is only part of being a good musician. You need enough to express your ideas.

However I see more snobbery on the anti-technique side than the pro-technique side. People seem to think that because some inspirational musicians have poor technical skill that aiming to be technically poor will make them inspired.

By the way I think Steven Malkmus is a technically excellent (and inspired) guitarist.
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I think that different styles of music demand different levels of instrumental skill.
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i always have arguments with other gtrists about this, being able to play really fast complex solos doesnt make u a gd gtrist just makes you good at that technical part. Not being able to play slow melodic and syncopated stuff aswell as keep rythmn but hmm im trying to say u could be the greatest fuckin musician and still not be able to write a decent piece of music/song. that make any sense??
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u could be the greatest fuckin musician and still not be able to write a decent piece of music/song

My God thats genius!
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It's normally the most technically skilled musicians that can't write a tune to save their lives.
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Old 17-03-2006, 02:30   #16 (permalink)
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It's normally the most technically skilled musicians that can't write a tune to save their lives.
Imagine having to write a tune to "save your life", what if the emperor didnt like it.........
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A good musican (in terms of being in a band) is more about being able to play well with other people, I'd say. Knowing howe pars fit togther etc. And a complicated tune is not inherently better than a simple one anyway.
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i think technical skill is a different thing from being a good musician. you can be the worlds greatest guitarist but still be a poor musician imo. a good musician is someone who listens to what's happening around them and works to the music not to their skill. a band is a group effort and not a showcase for solo's. if a guy doesn't know his instrument very well but what he can play fits the style of the band then there's no problem. people can learn as they go but a band lives and dies on how the members fit together.

so technical skill gets a thumbs down but the ability to listen to music around you and play to that gets a thumbs up
exactly!
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Yeah, ability to listen to what is going on around is vitally important, I still think that technical ability is very important. As said, how else are you going to express your ideas?

Being a technically good musician does not mean that you can write a good tune, but just because you are very good technically does not mean that you can't write a good tune. And how do you define what a good tune is? I mean if Mozart was alive today he'd probably play electric guitar and shred like a madman!!
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Yeah, ability to listen to what is going on around is vitally important, I still think that technical ability is very important. As said, how else are you going to express your ideas?

Being a technically good musician does not mean that you can write a good tune, but just because you are very good technically does not mean that you can't write a good tune. And how do you define what a good tune is? I mean if Mozart was alive today he'd probably play electric guitar and shred like a madman!!
yea but shredding is like a penis extension for ugly guitarists.

maybe i'm just jealous cause i can't shred and i dont' have the attention span to learn to a high technical standard.

you can express your ideas the same as a technically good guitarist it just takes a bit longer. i think people with a strong technical grounding in an instrument sometimes end up imprisoned by theory and 'rules' and then struggle to really express themselves musically. meh, the same can be said for those without the technical expertise i guess. they have an idea but can't find the right notes to express it or really set the song off. i guess that's where a band comes in to throw ideas and tips around.
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