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[stuartmaxwell]

sell sell sell buy buy buy sell sell sell sell buy buy buy

the "business" can go and fuck itself

[Jake Wifebeater]

Originally Posted by The Byre

Tunes can be bought

I almost threw up when I read that. Fucking disgusting.

[Daniel]

Originally Posted by Lester Burnham

Snowpatrol were around for 10 years in different forms before they got big....

yea but they signed to jeepster whilst at university

[Compuphonic]

Originally Posted by Stripey

It is nothing more than hype. I think "the industry" is desperate to cultivate an image of being intouch with the "internet generation" and people like the artic monkeys and the test icicles are their PR babies. The music industry behemoths are always going to find a way to adapt to new mediums and these 2 bands are prime examples. It's a con.

mmm... me thinks you give the 'industry' (and by that I mean the majors) way too much credit - they really haven't a clue at the moment.

A good example of this is the fact that the CEO of HMV resigned last week because of the devasting Christmas results - a huge swathe of their business has gone this year to internet retailers considerably more than they predicted. Agreed HMV are not the music industry but they are a very good barometer to the state of the retail music industry in the UK, and one of the main outlets for the material punted by the majors.

A second example is how some of the majors are quibbling with Mr Jobs or how much they want tracks to sell for in iTunes. They're strangling their own golden goose, iTunes sells over 1 million tracks per day and climbing rapidly, to me this shows just how lost the majors are.

The Byre speaks a lot of sense, its just laced in that cynicism that seems to hit you post 30 ;-)

Yes Pallas got a deal with Graeme still working as a lawyer, but maybe that then explains why The Wedge was then suffed in favour of Talk Talk their label rivals. Proving once again that being signed is far from making it...

Oh and getting back to the topic of this thread - buy that book its invaluable and certainly worth £40 - the only references I've seen better than this are pro industry ones costing several hundred. I bought mine last year, and just away to order this years...

[GraemeC]

Originally Posted by Compuphonic

Yes Pallas got a deal with Graeme still working as a lawyer, but maybe that then explains why The Wedge was then suffed in favour of Talk Talk their label rivals. Proving once again that being signed is far from making it...

What does suffed mean?

Why would Graeme's previous employment affect something that happened three years after they were signed?
The only label rivals that effected Pallas while signed to EMI were Marillion.
In the years that I was professionaly involved with Pallas Talk Talk were never mentioned.

Originally Posted by stuartmaxwell

sell sell sell buy buy buy sell sell sell sell buy buy buy

the "business" can go and fuck itself

If you look at the charts, there is evidence that it enjoys such self gratification.

[Compuphonic]

Originally Posted by GraemeC

What does suffed mean?

Why would Graeme's previous employment affect something that happened three years after they were signed?
The only label rivals that effected Pallas while signed to EMI were Marillion.
In the years that I was professionaly involved with Pallas Talk Talk were never mentioned.

Sorry that word was meant to be stuffed.. thats what happens when I post while on the train..

I thought Graeme was still working as a lawyer in some capacity when the Wedge was released ?

I remember going to the album launch in Virgin records - that used to be next to the music hall - think its now the P&J shop - and he turned up in a suit cause he'd been with a client.

Talk Talk and Pallas were siigned on the same label at the same time. Had the marketing budget been spent on Pallas instead of Talk Talk maybe things would be different (for a few years)

[GraemeC]

Originally Posted by Compuphonic

Sorry that word was meant to be stuffed.. thats what happens when I post while on the train..

I thought Graeme was still working as a lawyer in some capacity when the Wedge was released ?

I remember going to the album launch in Virgin records - that used to be next to the music hall - think its now the P&J shop - and he turned up in a suit cause he'd been with a client.

Talk Talk and Pallas were siigned on the same label at the same time. Had the marketing budget been spent on Pallas instead of Talk Talk maybe things would be different (for a few years)

No he went pro as a musician before they even signed to EMI, the Wedge was their second album with the label, they promoted the wedge for several months after its release.