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Old 04-05-2005, 14:31   #1 (permalink)
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Question WAV CD roms?

In order to access samples on a wav cd rom, do you need a sampler, or can you get at the single notes/samples by opening them up in cool edit?

I dont own a keyboard or a sampler, but I place(paste) samples to make parts in cool edit. This will be possible with wav format cd roms?

This is the CD rom I'm maybe going to buy

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You should be fine, the cd will simply contain the wav file samples that you can do as you please with. Remember to copy the ones you want to the computer. You may have to set them read/write because they typically copy from CDs with their read-only attribute selected. It's easy to do, by right-clicking on the file and choosing Properties, then unticking the "Read-only" tick box.

Other than that, you should be able to import them straight into Cool Edit, or any audio software for that matter.


ahah, but looking at the cd i can see that you probably DO want to use these with a sequencer. do you have a MIDI keyboard that you'd like to use these samples with? ideally you would be better looking for some sort of mellotron VST or soundfont to use, as from the looks of this page, you are getting a sample for each note of the mellotron, is that correct? in which case you'd either need a hardware sequencer to load this stuff into, or a software one that you'll have to load up manually with these samples. perhaps the CD has some instructions, i've never done something like this before.


edit: e.g. something like this mellotron soundfont from sonic implants:

http://www.sonicimplants.com/Product...llotronVintage

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I dont have a keyboard yet, or any kind of sampler, I'm just looking for certain sound samples of individual mellotron notes. I will then make parts from those single note samples in cool edit, in the multi track section.

Time consuming, but it'll do for just now.

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wow, painstaking!

that's why i suggested the soundfont, because then you can use a program like cubasis or cubase or cakewalk (i think) to plot the notes in the midi sequencer, and the soundfont will do the rest.
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wow, painstaking!
I kind of like that way of working, as it can result in some interesting/unintentional surprises, especially if i'm working on drum/percussuion stuff!

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I kind of like that way of working, as it can result in some interesting/unintentional surprises, especially if i'm working on drum/percussuion stuff!
One of these days I am gonna tie you up and force you to watch me demonstrating how liberating and easy to use a decent vst sequencer is! Your tracks deserve better than cooledit, and I am being deadly serious when I say that.
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wow thats going to take a while.

the only think i would say is that having played about with some mellotron samples in my sampler, the whole "mellotron sound" comes from the different attacks that you get from playing the sounds on a keyboard, so if you just paste the .wav files into your sequencer they might sound cool...just not that much like a mellotron (i think anyway.) i also found in order to get them sounding right the attack and decay times of the sampler had to be adjusted to avoid clicks at the start of the note etc...if i were you id invest in a samper first.

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One of these days I am gonna tie you up and force you to watch me demonstrating how liberating and easy to use a decent vst sequencer is! Your tracks deserve better than cooledit, and I am being deadly serious when I say that.
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wow thats going to take a while.

the only think i would say is that having played about with some mellotron samples in my sampler, the whole "mellotron sound" comes from the different attacks that you get from playing the sounds on a keyboard, so if you just paste the .wav files into your sequencer they might sound cool...just not that much like a mellotron (i think anyway.) i also found in order to get them sounding right the attack and decay times of the sampler had to be adjusted to avoid clicks at the start of the note etc...if i were you id invest in a samper first.

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Hmmm, having played a real one, the clicks are part of the sound(sometimes). That's one of the problems, I think, with some peoples use of tron samples, they get rid of the erattic aspects of the instrument/sound. This isn't aimed at you as I haven't heard your samples, or how you use them.

I think I should buy a midi keyboard as soon as possible huh? I've ordered the cd rom, the other stuff is going to have to be given to me as a gift.
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Heres a link to some soundfonts, http://www.soundfonts.it/?a=soundfonts
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