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Old 18-02-2004, 16:19   #21 (permalink)
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... but to do something that I could do doesn't command any respect at all.
Hmmmm, that's a strange way of looking at it!

Heh, go and do such a thing, I'd love to hear the results!

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Old 18-02-2004, 16:24   #22 (permalink)

 
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I could mix the gray album with metallicas black album and call it the charcoal album. Metallica would sue my ass and I'd be famous.
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There's frustration in not finding the right bit for the song. The amount of compromises he would have to make from such a limited range of material would be massive. As I said, I think someone truly creative would struggle to finish a project like that.
You could get a computer to do what he's done, with a bit of careful choice of algorithms. In fact, how do you know he didn't?


But limiting the samples was the whole point of the album. It's a bit like doing a crossword and complaining that there are only three letters in 6 down when you'd like there to be seven. The challenge is in working with what you've got. He's not compromising, he's still creating but within his own remit. And I think that's still waaay more creative, interpretive and emotive than a computer could be.
I think it also raises an interesting question. Is the music on the album still the creation of the beatles and jay-z, or has it transformed into a new music created by Dangermouse? Where's the line? Does that mean that 'Funky Cold Medina' is actually a Jimi Hendrix tune?

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And I'm keeping that for future use...
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I could mix the gray album with metallicas black album and call it the charcoal album. Metallica would sue my ass and I'd be famous.
I would love to hear that. I don't think mixing albums constitutes to creating something, mixing would be the correct term. It's novel idea though but people have mixed rap and old songs before...
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But limiting the samples was the whole point of the album. It's a bit like doing a crossword and complaining that there are only three letters in 6 down when you'd like there to be seven. The challenge is in working with what you've got. He's not compromising, he's still creating but within his own remit. And I think that's still waaay more creative, interpretive and emotive than a computer could be.
I think it also raises an interesting question. Is the music on the album still the creation of the beatles and jay-z, or has it transformed into a new music created by Dangermouse? Where's the line? Does that mean that 'Funky Cold Medina' is actually a Jimi Hendrix tune?


And I'm keeping that for future use...
It's more like doing a Times crossword but only being allowed to use a tiny pocket dictionary. It won't contain the all answers. The computer doing it was an analogy to the old Shakespeare, infinite amount of monkeys, typewriters thing.

At least Funky Cold Medina had some genuine originality in it (unless he ripped off the lyrics as well).


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... but to do something that I could do doesn't command any respect at all.

I don't think I'm talented so if I could do it, why would I think someone else was talented for doing it?

Feel free to keep that for future use too.
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It's more like doing a Times crossword but only being allowed to use a tiny pocket dictionary. It won't contain the all answers. The computer doing it was an analogy to the old Shakespeare, infinite amount of monkeys, typewriters thing.
Yeah I know, I just think that was his point in doing it, as a challenge. Maybe that's why he was distributing it for free on the net rather than trying to sell it. An interesting project.
By the way, I heard somewhere they once tried the monkeys typewriters thing. The first pronouncable word they came up with was......Chumbawumba.

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At least Funky Cold Medina had some genuine originality in it (unless he ripped off the lyrics as well).
True. That was a separate point about if/when a sample becomes the creation of the sampler.

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... but to do something that I could do doesn't command any respect at all.

I don't think I'm talented so if I could do it, why would I think someone else was talented for doing it?
I was just trying to be funny, probably failing as per, but that just struck me as overly modest. You get plenty of respect from me for what you do. If I tried it, I would be up on several murder counts by now...

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"He's not going to produce any more, sell any more or distribute any more - which is what they're asking of him," a spokesman for DJ Danger Mouse told BBC News Online.


Maybe that's what got my back up in the first place. He was selling it.
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