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Old 18-02-2004, 15:35   #11 (permalink)

 
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ah, but that was back in the day when business didn't run music, it was the other way around...
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I listened to one song and have to say its suprisingly good. Its a really good remix.
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Old 18-02-2004, 15:38   #13 (permalink)
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ah, but that was back in the day when business didn't run music, it was the other way around...
Indeed!
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This is money and greed getting in the way of someone being creative!
It certainly is.

To get yourself noticed nowadays you've got to be creative, and nicking one of the biggest-selling-bands-ever sounds, not just a bit but a whole album, and telling the world you have, in the full knowledge that the owner of the mechanical copyright will slap a nice little court order on you, is certainly creative. The public like a bit of legal wrangling.

As for musically creative, where's the real creativity in not producing a single note on your own, merely rearranging other peoples. A bit mathematical. I think anyone truly creative would have quickly got frustrated with the limited palette.
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It certainly is.

To get yourself noticed nowadays you've got to be creative, and nicking one of the biggest-selling-bands-ever sounds, not just a bit but a whole album, and telling the world you have, in the full knowledge that the owner of the mechanical copyright will slap a nice little court order on you, is certainly creative. The public like a bit of legal wrangling.

As for musically creative, where's the real creativity in not producing a single note on your own, merely rearranging other peoples. A bit mathematical. I think anyone truly creative would have quickly got frustrated with the limited palette.
The creativity is in the arranging of the pre-recorded sounds.

Is this not an art form in itself?
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No cos any fucker can cut and paste samples
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Old 18-02-2004, 15:53   #17 (permalink)
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Anyone can do anything, within reason, if they try!
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The creativity is in the arranging of the pre-recorded sounds.
There's frustration in not finding the right bit for the song. The amount of compromises he would have to make from such a limited range of material would be massive. As I said, I think someone truly creative would struggle to finish a project like that.

You could get a computer to do what he's done, with a bit of careful choice of algorithms. In fact, how do you know he didn't?

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There's frustration in not finding the right bit for the song. The amount of compromises he would have to make from such a limited range of material would be massive. As I said, I think someone truly creative would struggle to finish a project like that.

You could get a computer to do what he's done, with a bit of careful choice of algorithms. In fact, how do you know he didn't?


But regardless of the method used to make music, isn't it the end result that counts?
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But regardless of the method used to make music, isn't it the end result that counts?
Yes and I think the end result will be forced.


If he's used his own lyrics/samples at times then it does, in my view, gain some artistic merit but to do something that I could do doesn't command any respect at all.
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