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[Stripey]

Only in a place like aberdeen could you find people so utterly stuck in the past, it is fucking comical.

"mp3s and online distribution is rubbish and is ruining music im going to burn some cd-r's of my wack demo recorded at captain toms of my updated 1970's rock style band because thats what *REAL MUSIC IS* and oneup will sell it for me!"

All this whining about the death of CD's and the death of record stores is bloody pathetic, times change, business models become outdated - fucking grow up and accept it.

[Stripey]

Originally Posted by Original Spies

And I can definitely tell the difference when I plug my MP3 player into my stereo in comparison to playing a CD on it.

That's because your mp3 player is a shitty consumer device designed to be listened to on crappy in-ear headphones, it has fuck all to do with the medium.

[Stripey]

Originally Posted by Original Spies

MP3's are so volatile and can easily corrupt or be deleted. How can you pay money for something so disposable?

Yeah because CD's are so permanent and never get scratched or lost.

[Neil]

Originally Posted by Stripey

That's because your mp3 player is a shitty consumer device designed to be listened to on crappy in-ear headphones, it has fuck all to do with the medium.

Or it could be because the sound quality of MP3s is inferior to that of a CD.

[Stripey]

Originally Posted by Neil

Or it could be because the sound quality of MP3s is inferior to that of a CD.

If you have any evidence that a typical human being can tell the difference between a properly encoded 320kbps mp3 and a 16bit 44khz CD, please post a link.

[Giles Walker]

I love you sometimes Stripey and i agree with just about everything you have said.

I have to admit i am all for online music purchasing, i have always had a love/hate relationship with record shops.

As much as i loved talking to Finnie, Titch, Murray, Andy and even Nigel i always found trying to buy records from the indie kids who worked in record shops to be a bit daunting. I'm sure you realise it, but you guys come off as arrogant cunts most of the time.

I can totally understand how it works as i used to be a right dick at times when i worked in the cavern.

Adam and Joe's guide to record stores

I have actually bought records from the shop (Blackmarket Records) in this clip and it was a thoroughly enjoyable experience compared to say Stereo in Glasgow with the fucking indie nazis who act as if every request you make is a total chore that is way beneath them. The worst part is when someone who is a part of the 'scene' walks in and they suddenly change their entire persona and start kissing asses.

After a while that sort of treatment is gonna turn you into some sort of angry recluse who stays at home and starts arguments on the internet...

[Neil]

Originally Posted by Stripey

If you have any evidence that a typical human being can tell the difference between a properly encoded 320kbps mp3 and a 16bit 44khz CD, please post a link.

Define "typical". And how many online music stores do you know that allow you to purchase 320kbps MP3s?

[Giles Walker]

I doubt anyone could tell the difference between a well mastered 320kbps mp3 and a cd.

I think they even did test on the Fabric soundsystem with cd, 192 and 320 mp3s to see if there was an audible difference and the test subjects couldn't disern any difference. This is from a friend though so it could be bullshit.

[Giles Walker]

Originally Posted by Neil

Define "typical". And how many online music stores do you know that allow you to purchase 320kbps MP3s?

Dude there are loads of online stores that let you buy 320, flac and even wav files.

Don't make me list them.

[Stripey]

Originally Posted by Neil

Define "typical". And how many online music stores do you know that allow you to purchase 320kbps MP3s?

by typical i mean the generally accepted physiological fact of what frequencies healthy humans are capable of hearing.

320kbps is absolutely commonplace at any decent online music store. I've never used itunes but I wouldnt be surprised if that is where you are buying tunes at a bitrate like 128kbps.