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[Stripey]

Originally Posted by Alkaline

192khz isn't in your hearing range so it wouldn't be of benefit realistically.

192khz is the samplerate, it's nothing to do with the range of human hearing, you must be confused again

Higher samplerates mean less aliasing, the nyquist theory suggests that 44.1khz is "enough", but when you're talking about recording audio and then processing it digitally there is absolutely no harm in using samplerates as high as 192khz, infact I'm sure you mentioned earlier about the idea of non-audible sounds which the body can "feel", this is as good an argument as any for high samplerates as it's only bringing you closer to the actual analogue signal....

[daveofficer]

Originally Posted by Panda Strong

Huuuuh??

well, when i say decent i mean i get the same discount as student types get, i don't get as good as when i worked there but it all counts when you're skint and want cd's now rather than waiting for 4 days to get them from play. and it only depends on the price that it's for sale at normally, i don't always get a discount but it's nice to get now and again and i never request it as i'd feel a bit cheeky.

[Alkaline]

Originally Posted by Stripey

192khz is the samplerate, it's nothing to do with the range of human hearing, you must be confused again

Higher samplerates mean less aliasing, the nyquist theory suggests that 44.1khz is "enough", but when you're talking about recording audio and then processing it digitally there is absolutely no harm in using samplerates as high as 192khz, infact I'm sure you mentioned earlier about the idea of non-audible sounds which the body can "feel", this is as good an argument as any for high samplerates as it's only bringing you closer to the actual analogue signal....

Ok, i'm with you. Cheers

[Stripey]

Originally Posted by Alkaline

Ok, i'm with you. Cheers

So you agree that 320kbps 44khz is adequate for consumer audio at this point in time then? Don't worry, give it a year or two and lossless codecs like FLAC will be standard.

Unless of course, heaven forbid, industry heavyweights like itunes, in collusion with the major labels engage in a conspiracy to deprive the average joe of high bitrate recordings

[Alkaline]

Originally Posted by Stripey

So you agree that 320kbps 44khz is adequate for consumer audio at this point in time then? Don't worry, give it a year or two and lossless codecs like FLAC will be standard.

Unless of course, heaven forbid, industry heavyweights like itunes, in collusion with the major labels engage in a conspiracy to deprive the average joe of high bitrate recordings

I never actually said it wasn't. Like i said previously i prefer CD as a media, but i'm not completely against compressed audio either. I already owned up to ripping all my music onto a hard drive for convenience as i like to be able to stream all round my house (yes that's right i even go a further step in compromising audio quality).

In the end i think there's enough room for both formats to co-exist and for everyone to be able to make money out of it

[Stripey]

Originally Posted by Alkaline

I already owned up to ripping all my music onto a hard drive for convenience as i like to be able to stream all round my house

That would make you a hypocrite then. You should try and switch off the sales pitch mentality once in a while.

[Alkaline]

Originally Posted by Stripey

That would make you a hypocrite then. You should try and switch off the sales pitch mentality once in a while.

Not at all, i'll generally listen to a CD if i'm in the front room rather than mp3 because i prefer listening to CDs but it is useful for the other rooms and also for wireless portable devices.

It's not hypocritical at all as i can see the benefits of mp3 on a convenience level, but i prefer CD quality over that.

I have never paid for downloaded material and i don't download music at all now, and i don't intend starting either.

[Stripey]

Originally Posted by Alkaline

I have never paid for downloaded material and i don't download music at all now, and i don't intend starting either.

Well if you don't buy music online and never intend to, what on earth are you doing trying to lecture the rest of us on the pros and cons of the medium when you're resigned to sticking with the old paradigm?
By all means continue to buy CD's from shops so you can bask in their 16bit glory in your finely tuned room full of overpriced consumer hifi equipment, but if, as you admit, you rip your cd's to mp3 so you can listen to them for convenience I'm afraid you most definately *are* a hypocrite, given the rubbish you've been spouting in this thread.
Things are changing and you're missing out if you wish to cling to such ridiculous, misguided attitudes because of some bullshit dogma, I feel sorry for you.

[Alkaline]

Originally Posted by Stripey

Well if you don't buy music online and never intend to, what on earth are you doing trying to lecture the rest of us on the pros and cons of the medium when you're resigned to sticking with the old paradigm?
By all means continue to buy CD's from shops so you can bask in their 16bit glory in your finely tuned room full of overpriced consumer hifi equipment, but if, as you admit, you rip your cd's to mp3 so you can listen to them for convenience I'm afraid you most definately *are* a hypocrite, given the rubbish you've been spouting in this thread.
Things are changing and you're missing out if you wish to cling to such ridiculous, misguided attitudes because of some bullshit dogma, I feel sorry for you.

You're just spoiling for an argument now rather than being informative and constructive. Back to the old Stripey

[Stripey]

Originally Posted by Alkaline

You're just spoiling for an argument now rather than being informative and constructive. Back to the old Stripey

No, you're just straightup wrong, misinformed, misguided, out of your depth and a hypocrite and I'm pointing this out. Sorry if you feel affronted but you did ask me to explain back on page 2 of this thread or whatever it was. It's quite clear that you don't really understand how digital audio works, everything you've said has the vague smell of bullshit about it that is so typical from a hifi salesman, with a pinch of desperate google/wikipedia searching thrown in The way you've tiptoed around your arguments is just shameful.

"the speed of your computer affects the quality of the mp3 encoding"
"192khz samplerate is beyond the range of human hearing"

come on man, it's comical. You sell hifi gear, I know it's easy to develop a bit of a condescending attitude when you're dealing with the general public, but seriously, you don't know what you're talking about. I'm not being argumentative for the sake of it.