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[Stripey]

oh yeah and by the way mandatory listening is roni size / reprazent - new forms album, and goldie - timeless.

Kemal & Rob Data (aka konflict) are fucking great aswell, hailing from glasgow. The fact they were forced at gunpoint to sign one of their tracks to renegade hardware says a lot.

[la mula]

Originally Posted by Stripey

All they've done is reduced the genre down to pathetic cartoon-like bullshit designed to give cheap unsophisticated thrills to pillheads, as anyone who has listened to dnb for more than 5 years knows. They are fully on a par with gabber or happy hardcore in terms of appealing to base instincts and the lowest common denominator.

What a load of shit.

Pendulum is just as sophisticated as Calyx.

Also I recommend "Naughty Girl (Kiko and Rob F Remix)" by Beyonce, best dnb tune I've heard in ages.

[Stripey]

Originally Posted by la mula

What a load of shit.

Pendulum is just as sophisticated as Calyx.

Also I recommend "Naughty Girl (Kiko and Rob F Remix)" by Beyonce, best dnb tune I've heard in ages.

you're wrong, and I suspect you've never even heard ed rush & optical's watermelon/sicknote 12". you blatently don't know what you're talking about.

[KimyReizeger]

Originally Posted by Stripey

oh yeah and by the way mandatory listening is roni size / reprazent - new forms album, and goldie - timeless.

Wierd. I've actually got both those albums. Can't have enjoyed them very much..

I can see myself getting into Drum n Bass in the future, when I get bored of what I'm listening to now I'd imagine. It's sort of like a potential new friend, who's a bit older and smokes fags.

[la mula]

Originally Posted by Stripey

I suspect you've never even heard ed rush & optical's watermelon/sicknote 12". you blatently don't know what you're talking about.

I blatantly do, I don't need to have heard anything in particular to know Pendulum is good DnB, you seem to think just because you're a "DnB head" your opinion is like fact.

[Stripey]

Originally Posted by la mula

I blatantly do, I don't need to have heard anything in particular to know Pendulum is good DnB, you seem to think just because you're a "DnB head" your opinion is like fact.

No, you are in no position to say wether pendulum is good dnb or not unless you know the past and understand the context they exist in. Yes you like their stuff, good for you, but you are obviously in no position to say wether its good dnb or not since you clearly know fuck all about the genre.

[la mula]

Originally Posted by Stripey

No, you are in no position to say wether pendulum is good dnb or not unless you know the past and understand the context they exist in. Yes you like their stuff, good for you, but you are obviously in no position to say wether its good dnb or not since you clearly know fuck all about the genre.

I have heard several styles of DnB, old and new, but maybe you do know more about it than me. I don't think that makes me wrong, it seems a bit of a strange idea that after hearing a certain amount of DnB I will inevitably stop enjoying Pendulum.

Just face it, they're good at what they do and that is DnB. They just play a subgenre that you call "pathetic cartoon-like bullshit" and you happen to dislike them. Since you know so much about DnB perhaps you'd like to name a better artist of this style.

[Stripey]

Originally Posted by la mula

Just face it, they're good at what they do and that is DnB. They just play a subgenre that you call "pathetic cartoon-like bullshit" and you happen to dislike them. Since you know so much about DnB perhaps you'd like to name a better artist of this style.

That "subgenre" is called clownstep, and it's called clownstep for a reason. Go figure it out.

[Pierre Von Mondragon]

Its Called Fucking Jungle, I disliked the term Drum n Bass since I heard it. The term Jungle's appropriation of the detractors nomenclature a) follows a historical pattern ("cor sounds like jungle music" being a racist description of just about all black music since the blues and jazz were first codified) and b) says fuck off, we are going to rearrange your synapses and your bowels simultaneously. So in being renamed Drum n Bass, there is a desire to sanitise the dread side of the bass in favour of sophisticrat smoothness. Call it what you want, I think its Jungle.

[Tam o' Shantie]

Originally Posted by la mula

Since you don't know anything about DNB all your comment really says is that you go on 17 year old girls' myspaces.

well i don't want to pretend to be some sort of dnb 'hed' because i won't be able to recommend the good people of aberdeen-music anything outside of the dnb & jungle tapes i've been listening to for the past 10 years, but if you're going to describe a pendulum release as 'essential listening' of the genre, you're obviously a fuckwit who probably first heard this kind of stuff about 6 months ago.