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[Scorge]

Originally Posted by soundian

It is all RFR gigs.

If that's the case, why is he bothering having one page for RFR and one page for this, thus insinuating that all gigs in Aberdeen are RFR? Sounds like a pathetic shot at acting the monopolist, especially when the GCG site covers a far wider spectrum.......

[The Kernel Loaf]

Originally Posted by The Ghost Of Scorge

If that's the case, why is he bothering having one page for RFR and one page for this, thus insinuating that all gigs in Aberdeen are RFR? Sounds like a pathetic shot at acting the monopolist, especially when the GCG site covers a far wider spectrum.......

That is just a plain stupid thing to bitch about. Any gig listing is a good gig listing. RFR get a lot of big bands up here, so if people see that, then they may consider going to a gig that isn't just a bunch of local bands.

Yes GCG do cover a wider spectrum, but it would take fucking ages if Jamesy added every Aberdeen gig, shite or not, to the myspace page. It's his job to promote for RFR, so it makes sense to have RFR gigs does it not?

Originally Posted by The Kernel Loaf

so it makes sense to have RFR gigs does it not?

exactly.

and in all honesty, i personally couldn't give a toss what's on at the blue lamp on a wednesday evening, because i know a> i won't go and b>they wouldn't have anything of interest for me.

the GCG is a commendable undertaking by milner and ian, and whoever else is involved but ultimately IMO it's a lot of wasted energy for a lot of people who really couldn't care less...

even all the people into the new school indie - probably the biggest market at the minute - aren't going to look beyond drummonds, the lemon tree and occasionally moshulu/tunnels. having EVERY venue seems a little daft.

there's no way to judge how effective the GCG is anyway, as every venue still has nights that no-one turns up, and everyone once in a while a show will be unexpectedly busy i suppose.

[jester1470]

Originally Posted by five years

exactly.

and in all honesty, i personally couldn't give a toss what's on at the blue lamp on a wednesday evening, because i know a> i won't go and b>they wouldn't have anything of interest for me.

the GCG is a commendable undertaking by milner and ian, and whoever else is involved but ultimately IMO it's a lot of wasted energy for a lot of people who really couldn't care less...

even all the people into the new school indie - probably the biggest market at the minute - aren't going to look beyond drummonds, the lemon tree and occasionally moshulu/tunnels. having EVERY venue seems a little daft.

there's no way to judge how effective the GCG is anyway, as every venue still has nights that no-one turns up, and everyone once in a while a show will be unexpectedly busy i suppose.

There are ways to tell that the GC Guide is being effective, there's very few left in venues at the end of the month now, and remember there are several thousand printed, web hits have gone up 25% since the new year. The Guide itself is growing and as of next month will be 12 a5 pages in a booklet form, and is managing to be self sufficient.

Where the GC Guide is effective is the fact that there will always be some kind of music in it that will appeal to you, yep, not every gig, but every gig that can be found is in there so it covers the RFR, the Interesting Music, the Arkade, the Kabuki, the Vocoustics, the Jazz Festival, the classical gigs, the Lemon Tree, you name it, it's there.

I think the comment Scorge is making is based on the fact that such a page could be an RFR specific page title instead of implying all Aberdeen gigs. At the end of the day it doesnt matter though, who's to say that RFR wont add other people's gigs in, and there is the GC Guide page for people who want to see other things.

Cheers

Stuart

[ben_1903]

...Yes but if RFR don't add other peoples gigs onto the page then it's monopolising...and that's only bad for the aberdeen music scene - a scene that is growing - things like this will only stunt the growth unless it adds all aberdeen gigs...

[soundian]

Originally Posted by five years

exactly.

and in all honesty, i personally couldn't give a toss what's on at the blue lamp on a wednesday evening, because i know a> i won't go and b>they wouldn't have anything of interest for me.

the GCG is a commendable undertaking by milner and ian, and whoever else is involved but ultimately IMO it's a lot of wasted energy for a lot of people who really couldn't care less...

even all the people into the new school indie - probably the biggest market at the minute - aren't going to look beyond drummonds, the lemon tree and occasionally moshulu/tunnels. having EVERY venue seems a little daft.

there's no way to judge how effective the GCG is anyway, as every venue still has nights that no-one turns up, and everyone once in a while a show will be unexpectedly busy i suppose.

It works becuase it covers every venue and genre that it possibly can, most people have fairly broad tastes.

As to how effective it is, you'd need to ask the advertisers, but I'm practically fighting them off with a stick at the moment so that sort of answers that question.

According to my server provider we had 483 visitors on Tuesday, so wasted energy it is not.

p.s. Milner isn't involved in this, he just shows his support by having our logo on his signature.

Originally Posted by soundian

It works becuase it covers every venue and genre that it possibly can, most people have fairly broad tastes.

As to how effective it is, you'd need to ask the advertisers, but I'm practically fighting them off with a stick at the moment so that sort of answers that question.

According to my server provider we had 483 visitors on Tuesday, so wasted energy it is not.

p.s. Milner isn't involved in this, he just shows his support by having our logo on his signature.

in that case i take it all back. well done! i'd forgotten all about the advertisers.

(i just guessed that milner was involved due to the signature thing, my bad)

[Jamesy]

The site now mentions that all gigs listed are RFR and also links to the GCG.

[djricochet]

Granite city guide seems to be down now and gigs in aberdeen hasnt been updated since november!

[Angusr]

Originally Posted by djricochet

Granite city guide seems to be down now and gigs in aberdeen hasnt been updated since november!

RFR (who did all the 'Gigs in Aberdeen') no longer exists. The same applies to the Granite City Guide.