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[Marsh]

I downloaded it about 6 months ago and have watched it about 100 times just to remember all the brilliant quotes! It really is one of my favourite films.

It encapsulates all my feelings towards religion. In an ironic twist, it's become a "bible" of sorts for me...................

[Chris]

Originally Posted by RossP

Occasionally i've had to teach RME at school and there really is a lack of course content on Athieism (sp?) and Agnostic beliefs, considering around 40% of the UK population follow those beliefs.

The physics, biology, chemistry and geography departments all have aethism covered. Leave facts out of the RE class, let it stick to fiction.

What could religious education say about aethism, something that isn't a religion or a belief in the same way as christianity, hinduism etc is? "Now lets talk about aethism: There is no God or any other similar being or beings. Next."

One of the most annoying things about my school was that at one point my history teacher was also my RE teacher. I couldn't reconcile the two. In my mind there was a fundamental conflict of interest between the two subjects.

[Tubthumper]

Originally Posted by Chris

The physics, biology, chemistry and geography departments all have aethism covered. Leave facts out of the RE class, let it stick to fiction.

What could religious education say about aethism, something that isn't a religion or a belief in the same way as christianity, hinduism etc is? "Now lets talk about aethism: There is no God or any other similar being or beings. Next."

One of the most annoying things about my school was that at one point my history teacher was also my RE teacher. I couldn't reconcile the two. In my mind there was a fundamental conflict of interest between the two subjects.

To be fair, there's a lot more to aethism than that.
My school was pretty good at teaching it, but I think that was more to the teacher than anything else as he was pretty clued up on all of the religions, and wasn't actually directly religious himself and instead saw himself as an agnostic.

My school wins. Na na na.

[Surfer_Rosa]

Originally Posted by Chris

The physics, biology, chemistry and geography departments all have aethism covered. Leave facts out of the RE class, let it stick to fiction.

What could religious education say about aethism, something that isn't a religion or a belief in the same way as christianity, hinduism etc is? "Now lets talk about aethism: There is no God or any other similar being or beings. Next."

One of the most annoying things about my school was that at one point my history teacher was also my RE teacher. I couldn't reconcile the two. In my mind there was a fundamental conflict of interest between the two subjects.

Aethism does get studied a little bit now, (or at least it did in the Existence of God unit I had to do 2 years ago). But I think that's mostly because the subject is Religious, Moral and Philosophical Studies now rather than just RE.

[Chris]

Originally Posted by Tubthumper

To be fair, there's a lot more to aethism than that.

Well there is and there isn't. On another forum I'm a member on there are a large number of religious posters (mostly American) and we discuss this quite a lot. They all struggle to grasp the basic premise that aethism is an absence of belief. They talk about it as though it's another religion and we all attend church meetings or recite passages from the likes of RIchard Dawkin's books like they recite the bible.

I'm an aethist, I know there's no god and I get on with life accordingly. I don't waste a minute out of my day thinking about being an aethist or indoctrinating myself in that way of life. It's just the way things are.


I'd like to know Ross' source for that 40% figure he bandied about, if he's including agnostics I'd have guesssed that figure was higher. Though it may be including agnostics who habitually tick "church of scotland" etc on the census form yet haven't gone to a service for years.

[daveofficer]

Originally Posted by Chris

Well there is and there isn't. On another forum I'm a member on there are a large number of religious posters (mostly American) and we discuss this quite a lot. They all struggle to grasp the basic premise that aethism is an absence of belief. They talk about it as though it's another religion and we all attend church meetings or recite passages from the likes of RIchard Dawkin's books like they recite the bible.

I'm an aethist, I know there's no god and I get on with life accordingly. I don't waste a minute out of my day thinking about being an aethist or indoctrinating myself in that way of life. It's just the way things are.


I'd like to know Ross' source for that 40% figure he bandied about, if he's including agnostics I'd have guesssed that figure was higher. Though it may be including agnostics who habitually tick "church of scotland" etc on the census form yet haven't gone to a service for years.

you do spend time thinking about being an atheist and while you may not further indoctrinate yourself in an atheist way of life, by challenging other peoples beliefs or dismissing them you are spending time thinking about being an atheist and attempting to convert others to that way of thinking. most atheists are as bothersome as religous zealots and fail to see the hypocracy(sp?) in their arguments.

[Tubthumper]

It may be hypocratic but at least they are right.

[John W]

South Park / Season 9 / Episode 912 / Trapped in the Closet / via www.tudou.com - South Park X

Even if your not a fan of South Park that's a pretty funny episode about scientology and some big actors, etc, who are part of the religion.

I'm watching it again

[Surfer_Rosa]

Originally Posted by Johnology

South Park / Season 9 / Episode 912 / Trapped in the Closet / via www.tudou.com - South Park X

Even if your not a fan of South Park that's a pretty funny episode about scientology and some big actors, etc, who are part of the religion.

And also about hip-hoperas of course.

[Shaki]

Originally Posted by Lucky Rathen

Notable Scientologists

A
Kirstie Alley,[24][25][26][27] actress
Anne Archer,[26] actress (mother of Scientology spokesperson Tommy Davis)
Jennifer Aspen,[28][29] actress

B
James Stacy Barbour,[30] Broadway actor
Lynsey Bartilson,[28] actress, raised Scientologist
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That reminded me of when that BNP membership list was leaked.....in the sense that I sat here reading through a list of names thinking "check all these fuckwits.........what an affront"......