aberdeen-music

Want your banner here?   Don't want to see these?


The Moorings Bar The forum for The Moorings Bar - the epitome of rock 'n roll.

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
Old
  (#1 (permalink))

Flash@TMB's Avatar


Flash@TMB is an ambassador of goodwill with 9 influence and 75 reputation points.Flash@TMB is an ambassador of goodwill with 9 influence and 75 reputation points.Flash@TMB is an ambassador of goodwill with 9 influence and 75 reputation points.Flash@TMB is an ambassador of goodwill with 9 influence and 75 reputation points.Flash@TMB is an ambassador of goodwill with 9 influence and 75 reputation points.Flash@TMB is an ambassador of goodwill with 9 influence and 75 reputation points.Flash@TMB is an ambassador of goodwill with 9 influence and 75 reputation points.

Profile
gender: Male
status: Offline
joined: Nov 2003
bands: just don't leave your instruments behind after a gig ;)
talents: the saxophone... badly
location: The Moorings Bar
Default New Sound Desk - 04-04-2008, 10:00

For those interested we have successfully installed a Yamaha DSP5D:

PM5D, PM5D-RH, DSP5D, DCU5D | Mixers | Products | Yamaha Pro Audio

This is essentially a rack mounted PM5D-RH minus the control surface. It makes more sense for us to use computer control as we don't have the room to safely house a large control surface.

Inside it we've installed an 8 channel 96KHz digital I/O AES card with sample rate convertors, through which our jukebox, DJ decks, and DVD will input, and our stereo will output into the digital crossovers. There's also a T-diff card that hooks it into the digital recorder.

We didn't expect a noticeable sonic improvement but ended up being blown away by it. Sonically it's so different that we need to re-calibrate the speaker balances on the crossovers. Previously we had only one minor EQ tweak at 100Hz, now we're running ti absolutely flat.

On the monitors we had 4 parts of EQ round the crossover frequencies, these are also now flat, and once again it's possible to 'rest' to mics on the monitors without anything feeding back (I know the goes against everything I've learned to fear LOL). The removal of the monitor EQ has dramatically increased clarity and volume in the monitors (although volume was never much of an issue).

The DSP5D also comes with some high quality FX and emulators.

Channel wise there are 48 pre-amp XLR inputs with AD convertors and, unlike the DM1000, the gains on these are all electronically adjustable which is a big boost. Following on from there are 24 bus channels and 8 matrix busses. There are also 4 stereo inputs which we have linked up to our digital I/O card. There are 8 FX processors to play with, and dozens of FXs. Finally there are 24 OMNI outputs which we'll use mainly for monitor output. We were considering upgrading the monitor outputs to full digital, but there doesn't seem to be much point now.

All round clarity is enhanced through the FOH, and the lower frequencies are much better represented. The whole thing sounds a lot punchier and more powerful. IMO it's impossible to tell whether it was analogue or digital now, just that it's incredibly high quality.

The first gig with it is this Saturday, but it might take a few weeks to really start to exploit it's full potential.


The Moorings Bar - Corrupting the youth of Aberdeen since 1965: http://www.myspace.com/themooringsbar


"If Capital punishment makes the state a murderer then life imprisonment must make the state a gay dungeon master." -Rev. Jesse Jackson


Please contact our promoters for a gig: fudgemusic@hotmail.co.uk


"From thirty feet away she looked like a lot of class. From ten feet away she looked like something made up to be seen from thirty feet away." - Raymond Chandler
   
Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links


Old
  (#2 (permalink))
MTA

MTA's Avatar


MTA is on a distinguished road with 5 influence and 10 reputation points.

Profile
status: Offline
joined: Apr 2004
location: Aberdeen
Default 04-04-2008, 15:21

It will take me a few weeks, but It will be much more open sounding than before, Already i have set a load less compression over the whole system. But it will be work in progress for a few weeks, So if its not right I am working on it
   
Reply With Quote
Old
  (#3 (permalink))

Sue Denim..'s Avatar


Profile
gender: Male
status: Offline
joined: Apr 2004
bands: The local band of drunken pub singers.
talents: Mandolin & Drumkit (Badly)
location: Moorings Bar
Default 05-04-2008, 18:01

What's an FOH?
   
Reply With Quote
Old
  (#4 (permalink))

WoodyRATM's Avatar


WoodyRATM is a helpful contributor with 4 influence and 26 reputation points.WoodyRATM is a helpful contributor with 4 influence and 26 reputation points.WoodyRATM is a helpful contributor with 4 influence and 26 reputation points.

Profile
gender: Male
status: Offline
joined: Feb 2006
bands: A fair few.
talents: Guitar, Bass and Vocals.
location: Aberdeen
Default 05-04-2008, 18:15

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sue Denim.. View Post
What's an FOH?
Front Of House
   
Reply With Quote
Old
  (#5 (permalink))

tomrogers7's Avatar


tomrogers7 is on a distinguished road with 0 influence and 10 reputation points.

Profile
gender: Male
status: Offline
joined: Oct 2005
bands: dubs anonymous, ex contra
talents: Bass, Guitar, Decks
location: Aberdeenshire
Default 06-04-2008, 01:25

Quote:
Originally Posted by Flash@TMB View Post
For those interested we have successfully installed a Yamaha DSP5D:

PM5D, PM5D-RH, DSP5D, DCU5D | Mixers | Products | Yamaha Pro Audio

This is essentially a rack mounted PM5D-RH minus the control surface. It makes more sense for us to use computer control as we don't have the room to safely house a large control surface.

Inside it we've installed an 8 channel 96KHz digital I/O AES card with sample rate convertors, through which our jukebox, DJ decks, and DVD will input, and our stereo will output into the digital crossovers. There's also a T-diff card that hooks it into the digital recorder.

We didn't expect a noticeable sonic improvement but ended up being blown away by it. Sonically it's so different that we need to re-calibrate the speaker balances on the crossovers. Previously we had only one minor EQ tweak at 100Hz, now we're running ti absolutely flat.

On the monitors we had 4 parts of EQ round the crossover frequencies, these are also now flat, and once again it's possible to 'rest' to mics on the monitors without anything feeding back (I know the goes against everything I've learned to fear LOL). The removal of the monitor EQ has dramatically increased clarity and volume in the monitors (although volume was never much of an issue).

The DSP5D also comes with some high quality FX and emulators.

Channel wise there are 48 pre-amp XLR inputs with AD convertors and, unlike the DM1000, the gains on these are all electronically adjustable which is a big boost. Following on from there are 24 bus channels and 8 matrix busses. There are also 4 stereo inputs which we have linked up to our digital I/O card. There are 8 FX processors to play with, and dozens of FXs. Finally there are 24 OMNI outputs which we'll use mainly for monitor output. We were considering upgrading the monitor outputs to full digital, but there doesn't seem to be much point now.

All round clarity is enhanced through the FOH, and the lower frequencies are much better represented. The whole thing sounds a lot punchier and more powerful. IMO it's impossible to tell whether it was analogue or digital now, just that it's incredibly high quality.

The first gig with it is this Saturday, but it might take a few weeks to really start to exploit it's full potential.

sounds like a nice system. you should get some dub on the go to get those speakers worn in i'm definatley going to come down check it out soon
   
Reply With Quote
Old
  (#6 (permalink))
MTA

MTA's Avatar


MTA is on a distinguished road with 5 influence and 10 reputation points.

Profile
status: Offline
joined: Apr 2004
location: Aberdeen
Default 07-04-2008, 10:50

Well the Basic setup worked very well, I just need to be careful with the volume now, due to the use of much less compression it doesn't sound so loud. Now I need to get the rest of the inputs sorted so we can get the Recording back on the go.
   
Reply With Quote
Old
  (#7 (permalink))

Flash@TMB's Avatar


Flash@TMB is an ambassador of goodwill with 9 influence and 75 reputation points.Flash@TMB is an ambassador of goodwill with 9 influence and 75 reputation points.Flash@TMB is an ambassador of goodwill with 9 influence and 75 reputation points.Flash@TMB is an ambassador of goodwill with 9 influence and 75 reputation points.Flash@TMB is an ambassador of goodwill with 9 influence and 75 reputation points.Flash@TMB is an ambassador of goodwill with 9 influence and 75 reputation points.Flash@TMB is an ambassador of goodwill with 9 influence and 75 reputation points.

Profile
gender: Male
status: Offline
joined: Nov 2003
bands: just don't leave your instruments behind after a gig ;)
talents: the saxophone... badly
location: The Moorings Bar
Default 07-04-2008, 12:11

Quote:
Originally Posted by MTA View Post
Well the Basic setup worked very well, I just need to be careful with the volume now, due to the use of much less compression it doesn't sound so loud. Now I need to get the rest of the inputs sorted so we can get the Recording back on the go.
It's deceptively loud. It's not until someone attempt to talk to you that you realise "WHOA that's way to loud". Incredibly painless.


The Moorings Bar - Corrupting the youth of Aberdeen since 1965: http://www.myspace.com/themooringsbar


"If Capital punishment makes the state a murderer then life imprisonment must make the state a gay dungeon master." -Rev. Jesse Jackson


Please contact our promoters for a gig: fudgemusic@hotmail.co.uk


"From thirty feet away she looked like a lot of class. From ten feet away she looked like something made up to be seen from thirty feet away." - Raymond Chandler
   
Reply With Quote
Old
  (#8 (permalink))

Eriatarka's Avatar


Profile
gender: Male
status: Offline
joined: Nov 2003
bands: Astronot
talents: Guitar
location: Thurso
Default 12-04-2008, 18:56

Do you know if the recording setup is gonna be sorted for next weekend?
   
Reply With Quote
Old
  (#9 (permalink))
MTA

MTA's Avatar


MTA is on a distinguished road with 5 influence and 10 reputation points.

Profile
status: Offline
joined: Apr 2004
location: Aberdeen
Default 13-04-2008, 14:56

Quote:
Originally Posted by Eriatarka View Post
Do you know if the recording setup is gonna be sorted for next weekend?
I am hoping it will be ready, I have the connectors needed now so i will be making the cable up in the week.
   
Reply With Quote
Old
  (#10 (permalink))

Eriatarka's Avatar


Profile
gender: Male
status: Offline
joined: Nov 2003
bands: Astronot
talents: Guitar
location: Thurso
Default 14-04-2008, 09:07

Awesome! I'll speak to you on Saturday then
   
Reply With Quote
Reply



Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On
Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Thirteen Methods of Vocalization EEDD Musicians' Corner 0 11-08-2006 02:27
saturday 18th march - band night The Ghost Of Fudge The Moorings Bar 5 20-03-2006 12:19
But on a brighter note... (warning sound eng content) Flash@TMB The Moorings Bar 5 05-11-2005 13:56
Yamaha ProMix01 Digital mixer Compuphonic Equipment 0 25-10-2005 00:03
YOUR SOUND @ King Tuts Your Sound Gigs & Event Announcements 0 05-10-2005 11:27


All times are GMT. The time now is 23:38.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.10
Copyright ©2000 - 2008, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.1.0
All web site content ©2001 - 2008, aberdeen-music