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[mmw]

Originally Posted by Hog

Maybe they should know better and you should tell them to fuck off? (ouch,harsh)

Element have played many gigs at the Moorings and not once have we had a problem with the sound. Everything comes through the monitors clearly. Its a good venue, the end...

I still dont class it as a venue to be honest, it's more of a pub that puts on bands.

[trinitynscotland]

Originally Posted by Hog

Maybe they should know better and you should tell them to fuck off? (ouch,harsh)

Element have played many gigs at the Moorings and not once have we had a problem with the sound. Everything comes through the monitors clearly. Its a good venue, the end...

Ditto that, its a great venue.....yes venue. Best sound system so far in Aberdeen and the regulars are a great lot (as are the staff).
Never had a problem when the band played there and the sound came through loud and clear (proof with our recorded session).

Don't know what gremlins appeared, but it was a one off thats for sure if it happened at all.

xx

[MTA]

All that has happened recently is, We have improved the sound again. We have done this with the new tonally flat monitors, fully acoustically deadened stage and some special adjustments .

We have just completed the new backline update, which now includes:

Marshall DSL 100 & 4x12
ENGL Powerball & 4x12
Ampeg SVT2 Pro with 4x10
all is ready for any band to use if they so wish.

If anyone wants to try the amps etc come down on a Sunday and have a jam.

Mark

[Flash@TMB]

Originally Posted by Jamesy Weapon

I still dont class it as a venue to be honest, it's more of a pub that puts on bands.

Ha ha I love this thread!

Since your post comes accross as derogatory I'll respond to it.

Fortunately the world isn't classified acording to Jamesy (though he is entitled to his opinion). This issue of what does and doesn't constitute a venue has appeared on many threads regarding many err venues (or not as the case may be).

The general consensus is that a venue means:

i) puts on live music
ii) stage
iii) toilets
iv) installed sound system capable of supporting live music
v) mixing desk
vi) stage lighting rig
vii) stage monitors
viii) microphones and stands
ix) space for punters where the stage is visible and the music audible
x) Garth

A venue need not be a licensed premises, it may or may not sell either food or drink, and it may or may not have a door charge. If it does have a door charge then it should probably have a ticket hatch.

Not required but to be taken as an indication of the quality of the venue are:

i) house engineer
ii) elements of house backline for use if required
iii) involvement with music promoters
iv) supply of consumables such as sticks, strings, skins.
v) ancillary equipment such as tuner

We have all of the above. Can anyone think of anything else worth adding to this list?

So obviously The Moorings can be classed as a venue but only on Sat/Sun nights. It's not a dedicated venue, it does have other functions.

For instance we have a movie quality projector, a widescreen, and a sound system capable of supporting dolby digital. We have the facility to block out all light, have seats facing the screen, and toilets. Thus when we show a movie, the place technically becomes a cinema.

Furthermore we have a dancefloor, a sound system capable of playing recorded music at high volume, DJ decks, DJ mixer, and a lighting rig dedicated to the dancefloor. Thus when a DJ takes over we effectively become a discoteque/ballroom/dancehall - call it what you will.

And there's more *yawn*. We have a commercial quality 24-track digital live recording setup, a deadened stage area, a house engineer, industry standard microphones, a mixing desk, gates, compressors, EQ, FX, and recording media. Thus very occasionally we function as a recording studio. But 99% of the time we just do live recording.

BUT technically the Moorings is not a pub LOL. Seriously - here's why:

The term 'pub' originates from public house. A public house was originally a brewery's outlet for it's beer. The Moorings has never been a brewery outlet. Instead throughout it's entire life it has been a 'Free House', meaning free of a brewery tie. That can be witnessed now in that we take supplies from multiple brewers. A 16th century coaching house used to stand on the site before the existing building was erected.

The term 'pub' has latterly come to mean somewhere that incorporates a bar, and a lounge, and also serves meals in addition to drink. The Moorings is one room with a bar running down one side. This configuration is traditionally termed 'a bar'. Which is why we are called 'The Moorings Bar'. The only food we serve is the odd intermittent toasties that are prepared elsewhere.

The Moorings is primarily a bar. Most of the time it functions as a bar. And it's a damn good bar!

You don't read so much about the other aspects of The Moorings, chiefly because this website is music related, so we tend to focus more on the venue, dancehall, and live recording facilities. However we are equally active on other fronts, such as CAMRA for instance.

***

I haven't seen you around for a while Jamesy, and like Mark said, things have moved on a bit in recent months.

Something thought provoking... while we are only a P/T venue, we have invested more time, effort, and finances into the quality of our facilities than most other 'dedicated' venues. It's been a long haul, a lot of hard work, involved some difficult decisions, and some extremely complex problems. But it's also been interesting, exciting, challenging, and rewarding.

[Frosty Jack]

Originally Posted by Flash@TMB

Ha ha I love this thread!

Since your post comes accross as derogatory I'll respond to it.
etc...

I think you just kinda agreed with him there, tbh...
You get venues which have a bar. The Moorings is a bar which has a venue.
This is not a bad thing.

[trinitynscotland]

Originally Posted by Frosty Jack

I think you just kinda agreed with him there, tbh...
You get venues which have a bar. The Moorings is a bar which has a venue.
This is not a bad thing.

being pedantic, but Jamsey called it a pub, it can be called alot of things as its pretty much a multi task premises, but a pub....na not close. There's a pub round the corner from my house, and its a pub, plain and simple...nada else

xx

[trinitynscotland]

Originally Posted by MTA

All that has happened recently is, We have improved the sound again. We have done this with the new tonally flat monitors, fully acoustically deadened stage and some special adjustments .

We have just completed the new backline update, which now includes:

Marshall DSL 100 & 4x12
ENGL Powerball & 4x12
Ampeg SVT2 Pro with 4x10
all is ready for any band to use if they so wish.

If anyone wants to try the amps etc come down on a Sunday and have a jam.

Mark

damn improved it "again", better than when we were last there?
Nice one!!
best xx

[mmw]

Originally Posted by Flash@TMB

Ha ha I love this thread!

Since your post comes accross as derogatory I'll respond to it.

Fortunately the world isn't classified acording to Jamesy (though he is entitled to his opinion). This issue of what does and doesn't constitute a venue has appeared on many threads regarding many err venues (or not as the case may be).

The general consensus is that a venue means:

i) puts on live music
ii) stage
iii) toilets
iv) installed sound system capable of supporting live music
v) mixing desk
vi) stage lighting rig
vii) stage monitors
viii) microphones and stands
ix) space for punters where the stage is visible and the music audible
x) Garth

A venue need not be a licensed premises, it may or may not sell either food or drink, and it may or may not have a door charge. If it does have a door charge then it should probably have a ticket hatch.

Not required but to be taken as an indication of the quality of the venue are:

i) house engineer
ii) elements of house backline for use if required
iii) involvement with music promoters
iv) supply of consumables such as sticks, strings, skins.
v) ancillary equipment such as tuner

We have all of the above. Can anyone think of anything else worth adding to this list?

So obviously The Moorings can be classed as a venue but only on Sat/Sun nights. It's not a dedicated venue, it does have other functions.

For instance we have a movie quality projector, a widescreen, and a sound system capable of supporting dolby digital. We have the facility to block out all light, have seats facing the screen, and toilets. Thus when we show a movie, the place technically becomes a cinema.

Furthermore we have a dancefloor, a sound system capable of playing recorded music at high volume, DJ decks, DJ mixer, and a lighting rig dedicated to the dancefloor. Thus when a DJ takes over we effectively become a discoteque/ballroom/dancehall - call it what you will.

And there's more *yawn*. We have a commercial quality 24-track digital live recording setup, a deadened stage area, a house engineer, industry standard microphones, a mixing desk, gates, compressors, EQ, FX, and recording media. Thus very occasionally we function as a recording studio. But 99% of the time we just do live recording.

BUT technically the Moorings is not a pub LOL. Seriously - here's why:

The term 'pub' originates from public house. A public house was originally a brewery's outlet for it's beer. The Moorings has never been a brewery outlet. Instead throughout it's entire life it has been a 'Free House', meaning free of a brewery tie. That can be witnessed now in that we take supplies from multiple brewers. A 16th century coaching house used to stand on the site before the existing building was erected.

The term 'pub' has latterly come to mean somewhere that incorporates a bar, and a lounge, and also serves meals in addition to drink. The Moorings is one room with a bar running down one side. This configuration is traditionally termed 'a bar'. Which is why we are called 'The Moorings Bar'. The only food we serve is the odd intermittent toasties that are prepared elsewhere.

The Moorings is primarily a bar. Most of the time it functions as a bar. And it's a damn good bar!

You don't read so much about the other aspects of The Moorings, chiefly because this website is music related, so we tend to focus more on the venue, dancehall, and live recording facilities. However we are equally active on other fronts, such as CAMRA for instance.

***

I haven't seen you around for a while Jamesy, and like Mark said, things have moved on a bit in recent months.

Something thought provoking... while we are only a P/T venue, we have invested more time, effort, and finances into the quality of our facilities than most other 'dedicated' venues. It's been a long haul, a lot of hard work, involved some difficult decisions, and some extremely complex problems. But it's also been interesting, exciting, challenging, and rewarding.

You really like me, dont you?

For me, the main feature of The Moorings is the bar, and the stage is secondary to that, more people go there to drink than to see gigs, in my humble opinion, hence my comments.

[Spoonie]

luckily jamesy will be there on saturday to watch fudgenight62 and you can perhaps persuade him

/x

[Flash@TMB]

Originally Posted by Jamesy Weapon

You really like me, dont you?

For me, the main feature of The Moorings is the bar, and the stage is secondary to that, more people go there to drink than to see gigs, in my humble opinion, hence my comments.

Hey now! I wasn't being shitty to you - just having a little fun. It's Sunday and I've got bugger all else to do till I start work at 6pm.

And as Frosty pointed out, I agreed with what you said, just not the way you said it.

And yes you're correct in that we tend to be busier on the Friday when there's no band, than on the Saturday when there are bands. But I suspect this may be down to the preference of the playing public to listen to Paranoid for the nth time!

BTW The implication (made by others) in this thread is that MMW have refused to play gigs with us. I hope that's not true because I would like you to play The Moorings. OK I did ban you from the stage for a month, but then we shook hands and made up... before the concrete set... so that's all in the past now.