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[Stripey]

I'm sure most of you will be aware of the ongoing drama with regard to the proposed aberdeen bypass route. The current proposals will have a huge impact on those living in it's path, including homeowners and organic farmers in the area, aswell as huge environmental impact. Please sign this online petition at the scottish parliament website, urging a review of the current proposals.

http://epetitions.scottish.parliamen...?PetitionID=97

Thanks.

[Cloud]

Homeowners : diddums, where were you when it looked like the Murtle route was going to get chosen? Don't give me your nonsense, I bet none of you give a toss about roads elsewhere, you're just crying because your house is worth a fortune in today's housing boom and you won't get anywhere near that in compensation.

Organic farmers : Why not launch in areas that could do with some more businesses? Such as the Highlands and Islands...

Enviromental impact : What about the impact that thousands of queuing cars cause each day by having to go through Aberdeen rather than bypass it? It's a case of swings and roundabouts - ultimately, the bypass will make life much easier for a lot of people.

But go on Stripey, tell me why I should sign the petition, especially considering that the Western section of the AWPR hasn't been decided in fine detail yet.

[daveofficer]

Originally Posted by Cloud

Homeowners : diddums, where were you when it looked like the Murtle route was going to get chosen? Don't give me your nonsense, I bet none of you give a toss about roads elsewhere, you're just crying because your house is worth a fortune in today's housing boom and you won't get anywhere near that in compensation.

Organic farmers : Why not launch in areas that could do with some more businesses? Such as the Highlands and Islands...

Enviromental impact : What about the impact that thousands of queuing cars cause each day by having to go through Aberdeen rather than bypass it? It's a case of swings and roundabouts - ultimately, the bypass will make life much easier for a lot of people.

But go on Stripey, tell me why I should sign the petition, especially considering that the Western section of the AWPR hasn't been decided in fine detail yet.

homeowners: how would you like it if you owned a house and lost 30k of it's value because of someone building a road next to it?

organic farmers: why the fuck should they have to?

environmental impact: but that's just moving the problem outwith the city centre. if anything it'll increase the volume of traffic going through the north east not decrease it. the bypass solves no environmental issues whatsoever.

there is no 'good' route for a bypass, however there could be much more done to improve public transport in the north east.

[salsadecacahuete]

is this that road that is going to be in milltimber next to all the big houses and the international school that 'everyone' is complaining about?

[crooked*smile]

One of the proposed routes was gonna go right past my house, but thankfully that wasnt the one that was chosen There's no "good" way for it to go, but hey, it's gonna happen at some point so hopefully they will manage (or, have managed, if they stick to the current decision) to choose the best (or, least bad) route...

[catherine]

somesone always gona be unhappy no matter what

but as someone who lives(ed) in bridge of don its a nightmare with traffic. a by pass would have made/make my life easier.

[Cloud]

Originally Posted by daveofficer

homeowners: how would you like it if you owned a house and lost 30k of it's value because of someone building a road next to it?

I'd think "fuck, maybe I shouldn't have bought this house here when I knew that there was potential for the bypass to come nearby". I bet once the route is finalised, a lot of people will shut up about the bypass simply because a house 5 minutes away from the bypass, particularly in the western part of the city is going to skyrocket in value. Some people will lose out, but I dare say the majority will benefit. Right now, I wouldn't live in that part of the city simply because of the piss poor transport connections - but if the bypass arrives, then it's a whole different ballgame.

organic farmers: why the fuck should they have to?

For the needs of the majority rather than the minority? Tryanny of the majority and all that - but at the end of the day, it's not like they're being told "you can't farm again", rather "you can't farm here". Happens all the time, look at what happens when councils buy up land to build houses on.

Why should the fact that they grow "organic" foods make any difference?

environmental impact: but that's just moving the problem outwith the city centre. if anything it'll increase the volume of traffic going through the north east not decrease it. the bypass solves no environmental issues whatsoever.

there is no 'good' route for a bypass, however there could be much more done to improve public transport in the north east.

What's wrong with more traffic coming through the North East? More traffic usually means more prosperity, meaning that we can all benefit from increased living standards.

I agree that money should be spend trying to get people out of their cars - things like the Aberdeen Crossrail should be invested in, along with proper bus priority measures. The Lang Stracht could have been designed around buses at peak times easily enough, but as it stands, it's a mish-mash of markings that doesn't do very much for getting people into the city quickly and effectively.

I just hope we don't get the chance of a brilliant bypass ruined because of the minority.

Originally Posted by catherine

but as someone who lives(ed) in bridge of don its a nightmare with traffic. a by pass would have made/make my life easier.

Same. It's not that bad for me as I'm closer to the city centre than the vast majority of Bridge of Don people, but the bypass would be incredibly useful for getting over to Dyce without having to go on dodgy back roads or via the Haudagain.

[Sam L4]

Ah yes the road that is gonna wreck wear i have grown up and its surroundings - think i heard something about it.

[Tubthumper]

Build the damn road and be done with it.

[daveofficer]

Originally Posted by Cloud

I'd think "fuck, maybe I shouldn't have bought this house here when I knew that there was potential for the bypass to come nearby". I bet once the route is finalised, a lot of people will shut up about the bypass simply because a house 5 minutes away from the bypass, particularly in the western part of the city is going to skyrocket in value. Some people will lose out, but I dare say the majority will benefit. Right now, I wouldn't live in that part of the city simply because of the piss poor transport connections - but if the bypass arrives, then it's a whole different ballgame.



For the needs of the majority rather than the minority? Tryanny of the majority and all that - but at the end of the day, it's not like they're being told "you can't farm again", rather "you can't farm here". Happens all the time, look at what happens when councils buy up land to build houses on.

Why should the fact that they grow "organic" foods make any difference?



What's wrong with more traffic coming through the North East? More traffic usually means more prosperity, meaning that we can all benefit from increased living standards.

I agree that money should be spend trying to get people out of their cars - things like the Aberdeen Crossrail should be invested in, along with proper bus priority measures. The Lang Stracht could have been designed around buses at peak times easily enough, but as it stands, it's a mish-mash of markings that doesn't do very much for getting people into the city quickly and effectively.

I just hope we don't get the chance of a brilliant bypass ruined because of the minority.



Same. It's not that bad for me as I'm closer to the city centre than the vast majority of Bridge of Don people, but the bypass would be incredibly useful for getting over to Dyce without having to go on dodgy back roads or via the Haudagain.

you have a very different view of the world from me it would seem.

i've never heard the argument that increased traffic leads to a higher standard of living before, it's certainly an interesting take on things.