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Lets hope (for the sake of Scottish football) that Rangers get gubbed tonight!! Who's with me?

I can't pretend that I'd be happy to see them progress..

yup, I really don't understand this "rally round the other teams" nonsense.

Rangers are there to be hated and despised, and I am happy to oblige.

[Dave]

No matter what happens, Big Eck's out of a job. I'd like to see him go out on a high, but...it's Rangers! I just can't bring myself to support them in any way. The best I can muster for tonight's clash is apathetic disinterest.

[Christy]

I really want to want them to win. But i can't.

Love from christy

[Bux]

C'mon guys, Im a don thru and thru and naturally hate the Gers domestically.

But in Europe we should be rallying around them and hoping they can go as far as they can go..for the benefit of all Scottish teams.

I do however, find it hilarious how the Old firm were whining a couple of seasons ago that the level of football in Scotland was forcing them down south to the premiership, and now that the level is back up, they moan because they cant win...HAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHA you stupids hun bastards. C'mon Rangers!!

Originally Posted by Bux

But in Europe we should be rallying around them and hoping they can go as far as they can go..for the benefit of all Scottish teams.

I support other Scottish teams in Europe but I can't find it in myself to support Rangers or Celtic.

The only thing that would make it a little less hard to take if Rangers were to win tonight, would be if they were to come up against Barcelona in the next round..

[Johnny Mac]

I can't see Rangers winning tonight, but then I don't really care.

[Cloud]

I want Rangers to win for the coefficients sake, if they win, we might get an extra UEFA Cup place or an automatic berth into the Champions League as a result. They'll also be the first Scottish team to quality for the knock out stages since it became the Champions League, sooo..

A draw might be good enough for them anyway - I can't see Porto losing away to Artmedia, but can't see them winning either.

[Larsen B]

Originally Posted by Cloud

I want Rangers to win for the coefficients sake, if they win, we might get an extra UEFA Cup place or an automatic berth into the Champions League as a result. They'll also be the first Scottish team to quality for the knock out stages since it became the Champions League, sooo..

A draw might be good enough for them anyway - I can't see Porto losing away to Artmedia, but can't see them winning either.

I thought Rangers actually had been to the knockout stages of the Champions League in the early nineties, no? Could be imagine. I share Dave's sentiments. I like Alex McLeish and he has my pity and would like to see him go out on a high, but as a Celtic fan i just can't support Rangers cos they'd be rubbing our noses in it forever if they did go through.

[Cloud]

Originally Posted by Larsen B

I thought Rangers actually had been to the knockout stages of the Champions League in the early nineties, no? Could be imagine. I share Dave's sentiments. I like Alex McLeish and he has my pity and would like to see him go out on a high, but as a Celtic fan i just can't support Rangers cos they'd be rubbing our noses in it forever if they did go through.

I might be wrong, but I think they made the first Champions League, which was the semi final stage in 1992/1993. I remeber they knocked out Leeds in the 2nd round, but strictly speaking, it was still the European Cup then. I suppose they didn't qualify from the Champions League anyway, so no Scottish team has actually done that.

http://www.uefa.com/competitions/UCL...1/Group=3.html

That champions league format was ace The whole idea of winner takes all in the group stage was brilliant, especially as it meant that every game meant something, unlike now where you can lose a match or two and still qualify easily.

I'm sure it was around then when Marseille got busted for bribing the ref in their final league game too.

Amusingly, I was just looking through old results and winners when I saw Crvena Zvezda...I was like "who?!" and checked up on Google, turns out it's the new name for Red Star Belgrade, who were immense in their day.

Edit : if Artmedia and Porto draw, Rangers qualify regardless. So a defeat might be good enough for them, which kinda makes a mockery out of the whole Champions League concept.