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[Cloud]

Okay, a simple question.

Should people with special needs be integrated into mainstream society with resources provided for them to achieve that aim, regardless of their needs. Or should they be isolated from mainstream society with resources spent to develop them in isolation from the outside world?

[Bux]

Integrated.

[Miss Groupie Supreme]

ummm, I dunno... how about... Cloudy get me a long vodka and don't poison me *slap*

[Cloud]

Originally Posted by Miss Groupie Supreme

ummm, I dunno... how about... Cloudy get me a long vodka and don't poison me *slap*

I didn't get a chance to

next time...*cackle*

You cannot have a one-size fits all policy, you have to tailor the individual child's education according to his/her needs.

A blanket policy of integration/isolation only would be silly.

[Dave]

Individuals with special needs have the same human rights as the rest of us and should be given appropriate care and support suited to their needs in order to live a fulfilling and productive life. In some cases that involves giving them healthcare and education in specialist units, while others can be part of the "mainstream". It's pointless trying to group all disabled people into the same category, as they all have specific needs and challenges, and the best way to meet those challenges is to assess them on a case by case basis.

[daveofficer]

Originally Posted by Dave

Individuals with special needs have the same human rights as the rest of us and should be given appropriate care and support suited to their needs in order to live a fulfilling and productive life. In some cases that involves giving them healthcare and education in specialist units, while others can be part of the "mainstream". It's pointless trying to group all disabled people into the same category, as they all have specific needs and challenges, and the best way to meet those challenges is to assess them on a case by case basis.

exactly, this is one of the stupidest threads cloud has ever done. how can you think it's that simple? care for those with special needs can only be effective when it's tailored individually. the clues in the term special needs. they don't have general needs or group 1 or group 2 needs but they each have individual special needs. integration may work for some and isolation(a horrid term which has no relevence to the institutions you're insinuating anyway) may work for others. for some a mixture may also help, for instance living in a residential care complex like camphill and working part-time in a local shop as well.

[Cloud]

Originally Posted by daveofficer

exactly, this is one of the stupidest threads cloud has ever done. how can you think it's that simple?

It's not that simple, I was curious as to what people thought about the subject. Unfortunately, a lot of people seem to be pushed towards one or the other - witness for example ACC closing down the schools for people with "special"needs (I hate that term, is there a better one to use?) and integrating them into mainstream schooling, without consideration for the people affected.

I think it's a sad reflection on modern society that people get grouped at all, when it's accepted that people are individuals and should be catered for accordingly.

[Camie]

Originally Posted by Cloud

It's not that simple, I was curious as to what people thought about the subject. Unfortunately, a lot of people seem to be pushed towards one or the other - witness for example ACC closing down the schools for people with "special"needs (I hate that term, is there a better one to use?) and integrating them into mainstream schooling, without consideration for the people affected.

I think it's a sad reflection on modern society that people get grouped at all, when it's accepted that people are individuals and should be catered for accordingly.

People with special needs won't improve through being isolated with people in the same situation-it does not maximise their capacity to learn. They need to meet and speak to people who are different from them. It will make them open up to new things which will inturn improve their behaviour.

Of course monitoring of their progress should still be implemented.

Originally Posted by Camie

People with special needs won't improve through being isolated with people in the same situation-it does not maximise their capacity to learn. They need to meet and speak to people who are different from them. It will make them open up to new things which will inturn improve their behaviour.

Of course monitoring of their progress should still be implemented.

Interesting, because there are plenty of examples of children who actually experience regression when placed in mainstream education.

I reiterate, you cannot have a one-size fits all policy on this.