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[Cloud]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/4310926.stm



I think it's absolutely terrible - "Aberdeen City And Shire" just sounds plain awful, especially when using the word "Grampian" would be a far better fit, although not "correct", i'm sure Moray wouldn't mind getting in on the act...

[RF Scott]

I think its hilarious that a person(s) was probably paid a lot of money to come up with that awful term and logo. It literally looks like it took about 10 minutes.

best bit is, the new brand is all about promoting Aberdeen and the Shire in an economic capacity.

So they bypassed local consultancy firms and hired a London company instead.

Err...

[daveofficer]

this kind of thing really really fucks me off.

£160 000 this cost. when there's a very high standard of output from the art department at aberdeen college, grays school of art and indeed local design and consultancy firms.

and it looks fucking shit as well.

i'm sure the council workers who were threatened with pay cuts will be delighted to see that there's money to spend on stuff like this...

[daveofficer]

Originally Posted by tv tanned

i'm sure the council workers who were threatened with pay cuts will be delighted to see that there's money to spend on stuff like this...

hmmm, that's a whole other kettle of fish. and was sensationalised by the media outrageously while being handled quite badly by the council. however, probably best not to get into it as i've found people get very angry very fast when talking about it and all rational discussion goes out the window.

ok dokes. will leave it alone then

[daveofficer]

well it's still being argued about:

http://www.thisisnorthscotland.com/d...entPK=13262523

the problem is that it's exceedingly complicated and the press over simplified it(by my understanding) and inflamed it. i've spoken to a couple of people who were possibly(it was never definite they'd lose money) facing pay cuts and they got rather worked up about the whole thing. which is understandable if you haven't been properly informed as to what was happening. ah well. the problem is that if they don't sort it then the council could lose millions to lawsuits which wouldn't go down well with the local press either.

[Cloud]

The thing that confuses me - instead of cutting their pay, why not simply freeze it if they're due to lose out until their pay becomes "in line"?

Any predictions on how much our council tax bills will go up by next year as a result of all this fuss?

[ToasterCoaster]

"Money came from the Scottish Executive's Better Cities Growth Fund." (doesn't that sound like an obscure fund?)

Surely this is from an entirely different barrel of kit-kats, than the money used to pay city Council workers?