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Originally Posted by Da Fat Porn Star

As for Matt being envious of Jeff and Lita? Lita being a no talent, droning, boring bitch and Jeff being sacked and turning up a year later on TNA I highly doubt it's the case.

Maybe "jealous" is the wrong term. He never said a bad word about being in the shadow of Jeff and Lita- which he was- but he was definately not entirely happy about it. Lita, before she was injured on Dark Angel, could pull off more athletic moves than most of the male wrestlers- including Matt. And Jeff was always the one that got the attention of female fans- my girlfriend can vouch for that one- and was such an awe inspiring competitor. As for the being sacked part... Jeff Hardy has never been anything but honest about his drug addiction he had at the time. He went straight to the management and said that he was addicted to painkillers- yes, painkillers, the same thing that Eddie Guerrerro was addicted to...- and said that as a result he had lost his passion for almost everything, except his music, and REQUESTED a contract release to get clean away from the pressure of performing. His reasoning was he did not want to let himself, the company or the fans down by being subpar. At this point, the WWE released an official statement to the press that Jeff Hardy had failed a drugs test, and was being sacked from the company. As for turning up 1 year later on TNA... All WWE contracts, as standard, have a minimum 12 month "no compete" cause. I.E. no wrestler can perform in a nationally televised promotion for 12 months following his departure from WWE, and after WWE saying that they fired him for drug use- the same form of drug use for which they PAID for Guerrerro's rehab, and then made him champ when he returned- he did not want to return.

[succubitch]

Originally Posted by Zug Thug

Jeff was always the one that got the attention of female fans- my girlfriend can vouch for that one-

sounds like your girlfriend has taste.

[Lucky Rathen]

Originally Posted by Zug Thug

Maybe "jealous" is the wrong term. He never said a bad word about being in the shadow of Jeff and Lita- which he was- but he was definately not entirely happy about it. Lita, before she was injured on Dark Angel, could pull off more athletic moves than most of the male wrestlers- including Matt. And Jeff was always the one that got the attention of female fans- my girlfriend can vouch for that one- and was such an awe inspiring competitor. As for the being sacked part... Jeff Hardy has never been anything but honest about his drug addiction he had at the time. He went straight to the management and said that he was addicted to painkillers- yes, painkillers, the same thing that Eddie Guerrerro was addicted to...- and said that as a result he had lost his passion for almost everything, except his music, and REQUESTED a contract release to get clean away from the pressure of performing. His reasoning was he did not want to let himself, the company or the fans down by being subpar. At this point, the WWE released an official statement to the press that Jeff Hardy had failed a drugs test, and was being sacked from the company. As for turning up 1 year later on TNA... All WWE contracts, as standard, have a minimum 12 month "no compete" cause. I.E. no wrestler can perform in a nationally televised promotion for 12 months following his departure from WWE, and after WWE saying that they fired him for drug use- the same form of drug use for which they PAID for Guerrerro's rehab, and then made him champ when he returned- he did not want to return.

What fuck's me off is that Jeff became addicted to painkillers after putting his body on the line night after night after night to make sure the WWE get such good ratings, and what thanks do they give him? Fuck off out of the company. Vince can be a right cunt at times.

[Da Fat Porn Star]

DSo I believe that Jeff was addicted to painkillers? Yes. If you remember though Eddie was sacked when his first addiction came to light. People overlook that fact.

Lita? More atheltic moves? You are kidding me right? Her entire arsenal is a moonsault, hurricarana and a twist of fate. That is it. Most of the guys on the roster can perform a moonsault. Hell there are two guys, The Headshrinkers, in Japan that can do them... oh, BTW they are over 400lbs each. So I'd hardly call that an achievement. Hurricanrana? Well all of the guys who are lighter can perform that so..... and I'd hardly think the Undertaker or Big Show would really pull it off do you?

The fact is Jeff was relying more and more on high spots to gain the fans interest in the ring. His actual wrestling skills are minimal and it was obvious towards the end of the Hardys tenure just who was going to break out... a clue was the name didn't start with J or L. Lita in ECW had more than just a slight reputaion for sleeping around with half the roster, hence her teparture. Edge has a reputation of being a prick in that respect too.... so it can hardly be surprising.