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Old 25-09-2004, 11:41   #1 (permalink)

 
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So, heres what I was thinking yesterday in work when I was badgered into signing a petition sheet I couldn't really care too much about...

The democracy you all seem to love demands that all people of all beliefs be given a chance to express their views equally. Even those of you opposed to the gouverment are tolerated your marches and protests and pertitions etc etc. So, maybe the NF believe in very different ideals but surely it's quite a savage hypocracy that simple because their views are a little... unorthadox that they be forbidden from expressing them? If any of you were told you had a right to an opinion so long as you didn't express it you'd kick up an outrage. So whats so different about banning this march?

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Old 25-09-2004, 11:44   #2 (permalink)
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I do agree with what your saying but most people will use the argument that a lot of their beliefs incite racism, which is wrong in the laws eyes and therefore they should be stopped.
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Hatred and violence towards a minority should never happen and be promoted in any way or form. THIS IS WRONG
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But again one could argue the SNP and their pro-seperation borders on racism against the english? If not racist its atleast extremely nationalist which inevitable encourages prejudices if not direct hatred against others.
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Do you see people fighting on the streets for this? Dont think so
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But again one could argue the SNP and their pro-seperation borders on racism against the english? If not racist its atleast extremely nationalist which inevitable encourages prejudices if not direct hatred against others.
the snp thing is totally different. its not racist towards the english, how is wanting to govern your own country racism?

i think race differentiation has no place in politics and any party that has this as their main agenda should be silenced.

why is it so wrong to stop people trying to insite racial hatred?
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should democracy/freedom of speech etc really apply to people who want to take such rights away from others because of their skin colour? dont think so
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So, heres what I was thinking yesterday in work when I was badgered into signing a petition sheet I couldn't really care too much about...

The democracy you all seem to love demands that all people of all beliefs be given a chance to express their views equally. Even those of you opposed to the gouverment are tolerated your marches and protests and pertitions etc etc. So, maybe the NF believe in very different ideals but surely it's quite a savage hypocracy that simple because their views are a little... unorthadox that they be forbidden from expressing them? If any of you were told you had a right to an opinion so long as you didn't express it you'd kick up an outrage. So whats so different about banning this march?

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Just as they have the right to express disdain for ethinic groups, I have the right to express my disdain in them marching. Balance and counter-balance, my friend.
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Just as they have the right to express disdain for ethinic groups, I have the right to express my disdain in them marching. Balance and counter-balance, my friend.
Kudos. An argument that makes sense

And for the record, I'm not really giving an opinion on this matter, I've avoided it totally, its just... well just pointing out an interesting little flaw basically.
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So, heres what I was thinking yesterday in work when I was badgered into signing a petition sheet I couldn't really care too much about...

The democracy you all seem to love demands that all people of all beliefs be given a chance to express their views equally. Even those of you opposed to the gouverment are tolerated your marches and protests and pertitions etc etc. So, maybe the NF believe in very different ideals but surely it's quite a savage hypocracy that simple because their views are a little... unorthadox that they be forbidden from expressing them? If any of you were told you had a right to an opinion so long as you didn't express it you'd kick up an outrage. So whats so different about banning this march?

Discuss..

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My opposition to the NF marching involves no hypocrisy. My beliefs, as are those of others who oppose the NF, are not based on the hatred of other races. We are talking about fascists - those whose message may inspire beatings or even murder - whose only motivation is racial.
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