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[TheTickingTime-Bomb]

Originally Posted by Dayeth

Am I the only one that thinks GTAIV is a frustrating pile of crap?

Yes, the graphics, animation, sound and visual design of it all is outstanding, but why build such a fantastically realised enviroment if you can't actually DO anything in it? Oh, except go on the internet, or watch TV. Great idea.

I have just opened up the third island (which I've already completely seen on multiplayer) and I can safely say I have only done two missions that I found remotely interesting. There was one where you had to find a guy speaking on a phone, and the bank job which had a bit of atmosphere going for it. I can't explain how frustrating it is that after the GTAIII's they can't think of any original missions, they are all "go here, pick this up, take it here", "kill some guy, fighting your way through some gangsters or back through some police", "find someone, chase them on bike/car". I remember one classic mission earlier on where I had to go drive somewhere, throw a brick off a window, then drive back!!! The 20 odd missions at the start tediously introducing you to buttons were mind-numbing.

And remember when you had to fly Bruce in a helicopter to a building.... then back. Brucie is a fantastic character, his design and dialogue are great but I can't be dicked doing his missions because I feel like I'm working as a games tester for Rockstar, but my money is going in the wrong direction.

Oh, did I mention the gun combat system is shit too, and like many of Nico's manouvers clunky and completely unresponsive, its a recipe for a broken Xbox controller when you're trying to shoot someone in the opposite direction when your in RB mode and the camera places itself in the most USELESS of positions you could ever think to place it, meanwhile (as mentioned above) you're shooting away at a dead body behind a box cursing the day games ever went 3D.

The saving grace if you ask me is the multiplayer, which in fairness, I've had a damn good time on dicking around with my mates, because you need that additional human player to create oppurtunities to do anything. The only other decent new feature is being able to get a taxi everywhere, because driving for 10 minutes to pick someone up for the 400th time is fucking unbearable.

Who remembers the fantastic missions from previous games like when you caught up with a plane on a superbike, drove into the cargohold when it was taking off, fought your way through, planted a bomb, stole a parachute and fucking jumped out.

My pure devotion and respect to the franchise is keeping me going because for some reason, I still think its going to get better. I certainly won't be finding all 200 of the flying rats, or doing anything I don't have to to see the end of the story, because the point is just lost on me now, I'll just get ran over by a taxi and fall asleep waiting for Nico to get back up.

I really think this game has been hyped up so much that nobody has been bothered to consider if it's actually any good.

On the dot.

[Teabags]

Originally Posted by Dayeth

Who remembers the fantastic missions from previous games like when you caught up with a plane on a superbike, drove into the cargohold when it was taking off, fought your way through, planted a bomb, stole a parachute and fucking jumped out.

That was indeed a fucking ace mission.

[The Sloth]

Yeah, I got bored pretty quickly. I thought it was just me.

I always thought I'd like a game that was based on doing real-life things but quickly found that the real life aspects were the most annoying parts of the game (hanging out with mates, girlfriends, internet, TV etc.). I have resorted to just doing the missions and blowing stuff up and telling everyone else who phones to bugger off (Nico says it in a nicer way.)

[daveofficer]

i'm still enjoying the game now that i've completed it. i just load it up and have some fun. i found a place to get a police chopper with miniguns attached and have now parked it outside a safehouse so it's readily accessible

i thought the missions were better than san andreas though the story was still a little on the long side. the main advantage gta4 has over the earlier ones is the character of nico, he's more likeable and the other characters are well scripted too. i think slagging off the clunkiness of some of the mechanics is valid but they're an improvement on earlier games(particularly the combat).

each to their own though, for me it's an astonishing acheivement which isn't without flaws but has still raised the bar for epic gaming and managed to do so without 90 minute cutscenes

[treader.]

so, i just got this on friday. so far all i can say is 'ace!'
i've been using the cheats without saving the game which is fun.
finding stunt jumps is always a bonus as well.

need to get live on the go for some multiplayer nonsense.

[mistersticks]

Originally Posted by daveofficer

i thought the missions were better than san andreas though the story was still a little on the long side. the main advantage gta4 has over the earlier ones is the character of nico, he's more likeable P

but nico and cj were given reasons for being bad, tommy vercetti did all that crazy shit in vice city simply because he wanted to

[Tubthumper]

Originally Posted by make-them-earn-it

so, i just got this on friday. so far all i can say is 'ace!'
i've been using the cheats without saving the game which is fun.

So you're one of "those".

[Dave]

It was fun while it lasted, but after I'd finished the storyline I felt absolutely no compulsion to complete the minor tasks. The features such as drunk driving and darts/pool/bowling are fun once or twice, but no reason to return to the game. The combat system, driving and radio stations are actually worse than San Andreas, and I can actually see myself going back to that before I revisit GTAIV.

I've gone back to Elder Scrolls: Oblivion, which also has massive flaws but also has enough scope to build up a unique style of gameplay. There's only one way to play GTAIV. I'm just biding my time until Spore comes out now.

[drahcirv1]

Originally Posted by Dave

I've gone back to Elder Scrolls: Oblivion, which also has massive flaws but also has enough scope to build up a unique style of gameplay. .

I just started playing that again this week. Still got 30 achievement points to get for a perfect.


I know what you mean about theradio stations. This is the first GTA i can remember turning the radio on and hearing something i have heard before.
Sometimes even the same stuff repeated just after switching cars and tuning into the same station