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[soundian]

Originally Posted by pictishpunkgirl

So can you tell us exactly where your cut off point is just so we're all clear on this? Westhill? Bridge of Don? Stonehaven? Or are you going strictly by Council boundaries? What if half of a band is from city and half from 'shire? What if 'shire band rehearses in Aberdeen? Or vice versa.

I think the point TGOF is trying to make is this: if you have a following who live in the city, regardless of where the band lives/rehearses, then that's good enough for fudge.
Anyway, there's plenty more gigs to be had to help bands build a following in the city so no stress.

[theghostofcain]

Originally Posted by soundian

I think the point TGOF is trying to make is this: if you have a following who live in the city, regardless of where the band lives/rehearses, then that's good enough for fudge.
Anyway, there's plenty more gigs to be had to help bands build a following in the city so no stress.

Clearly not, as the first question I was asked was "where are you from?" as opposed to "can you pull a crowd?" It doesn't matter if we could pull a crowd, we aren't local enough to Aberdeen to be classed as local. I personally wouldn't class a band from Mintlaw/New Deer as 'on tour' when playing Aberdeen. And in a similar point to Pictishpunkgirl, is a band that rehearses in Aberdeen but doesn't actually live there, still classed as an Aberdeen band?

[soundian]

Originally Posted by theghostofcain

Clearly not, as the first question I was asked was "where are you from?" as opposed to "can you pull a crowd?" It doesn't matter if we could pull a crowd, we aren't local enough to Aberdeen to be classed as local. I personally wouldn't class a band from Mintlaw/New Deer as 'on tour' when playing Aberdeen. And in a similar point to Pictishpunkgirl, is a band that rehearses in Aberdeen but doesn't actually live there, still classed as an Aberdeen band?

It's all about bums on seats, as was explained in the succinct but depressingly accurate treatise on the financial aspects of gigging from a promoters point of view.
To put it mathematically:
You live out of town=most of your friends live out of town=hardly anyone at the gig.
You live in town=most of your friends live in town=maybe, just maybe, enough of them will come through the door to pay the bills.

Anyway, as I said, there are enough venues and promoters in Aberdeen so it shouldn't be difficult to get a gig.


(btw, he didn't ask the question "where are you from? personally I think he looked at your myspace, saw you were from out of town and only had 21 "friends" and decided there was too much risk of none of the aforementioned bums being on seats anywhere in the vicinity of the gig)

[The Ghost Of Fudge]

Originally Posted by pictishpunkgirl

So can you tell us exactly where your cut off point is just so we're all clear on this? Westhill? Bridge of Don? Stonehaven? Or are you going strictly by Council boundaries? What if half of a band is from city and half from 'shire? What if 'shire band rehearses in Aberdeen? Or vice versa.

the cut off point is anywhere we feel it should be. except on full moons, when the cutoff becomes the distance an unladen gazelle can travel in 37 minutes.

[The Ghost Of Fudge]

Originally Posted by soundian

I think the point TGOF is trying to make is this: if you have a following who live in the city, regardless of where the band lives/rehearses, then that's good enough for fudge.
Anyway, there's plenty more gigs to be had to help bands build a following in the city so no stress.

i love you.

[soundian]

Originally Posted by The Ghost Of Fudge

the cut off point is anywhere we feel it should be. except on full moons, when the cutoff becomes the distance an unladen gazelle can travel in 37 minutes.

African or European gazelle? Oh, hang on, that doesn't work.

[pictishpunkgirl]

So the issue isn't the geography at all then? 'Aberdeen-based' is irrelevant if an out of town band has a loyal following that will travel? I see what you're getting at with regard to bums on seats but putting it in terms of being 'Aberdeen-based' is largely irrelevant and misleading 'cos if the Aberdeen-based band has no myspace friends they're not getting the fudge gig either.

[theghostofcain]

Originally Posted by soundian

(btw, he didn't ask the question "where are you from?

Yes he did. It was in a PM.

[Stichman]

Originally Posted by theghostofcain

personally wouldn't class a band from Mintlaw/New Deer as 'on tour' when playing Aberdeen

Nice New Deer name-check. We used to be based out in the wilderness too, but now 3 out of 4 of us live in Aberdeen so we're officially local. Hurray for us.

[soundian]

Originally Posted by theghostofcain

Yes he did. It was in a PM.

Ah, a PRIVATE message.
Anyways, the point is, the promoter doesn't think you are suitable for the gig. End of.

I used to book bands and the one thing that really got on my tits was bands demanding to know exactly WHY they weren't getting a particular gig.Why? Because it's my decision and my continued success/mediocrity in my job relies on me making judgement calls. They may not be logical judgement calls but they're mine.
Accept it, move on, prove TGOF wrong by having 300 punters gagging for it at your first gig in town, then come here and gloat.

Sorry TGOF, this seems to have got out of hand. I should have left the PR part of what's left of your brain handle them in typical Fudge fashion.