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[Lucky Rathen]

Originally Posted by scottyboy

didn't think much of sins of the flesh. the intro riff to in my shoes is pretty cool, reminds of soundgarden. the rest of it is also reminiscent of soundgarden, only without the great riffs and musicianship. i'd ditch most of the song and base it around the intro riff as much as possible, since it's the only cool part. it did at least make me go look for superunknown.

it's funny that, because the intro riff to In My Shoes is the one bit of the song that I don't like and I was thinking of changing! I don't think you're ever going to like us....

[idol_wild]

To me, this is massively generic and not my thing in any way at all so I don't think I can comment wholeheartedly.

I can say it's executed quite well, but you'd definitely benefit from a proper studio recording and some gigs under your belt.

Good luck and all that.

[Lucky Rathen]

Originally Posted by idol_wild

To me, this is massively generic and not my thing in any way at all so I don't think I can comment wholeheartedly.

I can say it's executed quite well, but you'd definitely benefit from a proper studio recording and some gigs under your belt.

Good luck and all that.

Yeah we would benefit from a studio recording but we are still trying out new guitarists at the moment so we'll probably do that after we have a full line up. Plus we are still tweaking the songs quite a bit so we don't want to pay to get them recorded properly only to go and change them all. As I said, we are very very new and most of the stuff we are recording has only been written recently and we quite often come up with changes at practice, and these are just demos.

Thanks for the feedback.

[Lucky Rathen]

Originally Posted by RockAustin

I'd maybe edit the ones you have down or just make them shorter. If they are not your best work there is no point in having someone sit through 6 mins to get to the most interesting bit. It is hard cutting your songs down but sometimes it's the way to make them better, get rid of all the boring bits.

A few people have said the songs are too long. We didn't purposely write long songs, it's just really my writing style. I like my songs to build up slowly to big endings, but yeah agreed 7 minutes for a rock song is kind of excessive. We trimmed down "Sins" once before to about 4 1/2 minutes but I hated it so we put it back. I don't think Sins is too long but I think In My Shoes may be a bit long winded, especially for such a slow, plodding song that repeats itself a lot. What can I say I'm just really self-indulgent . We may try and cut that one down actually.

Originally Posted by RockAustin

If you do keep on using computer based drums it might be better doing something totally different, rather than simulate what the drummer might play. What did you use for the drums, I'm sure you could get some better samples.

The fake drums are just there temporarily. We are going to record these again properly (see above post) but just not yet. I'm not really looking for feedback on the production, cos I know myself that it's not the best, but then it's not like it's U2's new single - it's just a demo, and we are going to do them again once we've got some gigs under our belts. We do have a drummer but we recorded these on an 8 year old MIDI recording program on PC in a house in Balmedie. Not really ideal for setting up a full kit. Personally for what it is I don't think it's too bad. As I said before, they were just for us to listen to, and to give out to new members, but I thought I'd just post them for the craic really and to see what people thought. Plus I wanted to get our name out there and into people's heads so that once we are gigging people will be aware of us and might think "Oh The Cobra Kai, I've heard of them, I might pop in and check them out". However I guess if everybody hates the songs that might backfire

Anyway, there's another song up now called "Seasick" with more fake drums and Karate Kid 3 movie clips inserted in the name of comedy. Another going up tomorrow called "Repeat Offender" which is a faster number, with loads of funk bass along with some funny noises and a jazz ending. We had a long day recording them on Saturday and it descended into dicking about a bit. Prepare to be disappointed

Seriously though, thanks for listening and replying, not many people bother these days. You can have a free Cobra Kai T-shirt, if we ever make any.

[WoodyRATM]

I had a listen. I do agree the recordings a little ropey..but i do actually like the songs.
I thought the vocals in the "heavier" parts sounded a little off...kinda dead? i dont mean that as an insult to the vocalist, but like thats a recording issue again id assume. I like the guitar tone for some reason...

I'd defo attempt to catch you guys live, not enough grunge bands anymore hehe.
Speaking of which; when will the next gig be ya think?

[Lucky Rathen]

Originally Posted by WoodyRATM

I had a listen. I do agree the recordings a little ropey..but i do actually like the songs.
I thought the vocals in the "heavier" parts sounded a little off...kinda dead? i dont mean that as an insult to the vocalist, but like thats a recording issue again id assume. I like the guitar tone for some reason...

I'd defo attempt to catch you guys live, not enough grunge bands anymore hehe.
Speaking of which; when will the next gig be ya think?

Feel free to insult the vocalist, it's me. And I was hungover to fuck when I did the heavy bits!

Yeah a few of the levels are a bit dodgy, I think the vocals are a bit quiet throughout actually. But then I would say that. We've had a couple of gig offers but we've had to turn them down for the moment as we are still in the process of trying out new lead guitarists, though once he/she is in place and has learned the songs (which hopefully won't take long) we should be raring to go. We are itching to get our first gig done. We'll probably debut in the Moorings. Keep an eye on the Bebo site for gig dates and stuff, and that other new track going up soon....

Thanks for listening. And liking us

[WoodyRATM]

Originally Posted by Elwood Cobra Kai

Feel free to insult the vocalist, it's me. And I was hungover to fuck when I did the heavy bits!

Yeah a few of the levels are a bit dodgy, I think the vocals are a bit quiet throughout actually. But then I would say that. We've had a couple of gig offers but we've had to turn them down for the moment as we are still in the process of trying out new lead guitarists, though once he/she is in place and has learned the songs (which hopefully won't take long) we should be raring to go. We are itching to get our first gig done. We'll probably debut in the Moorings. Keep an eye on the Bebo site for gig dates and stuff, and that other new track going up soon....

Thanks for listening. And liking us

No probs i'm a fan too. If my talents as a lead player were any good i'd offer my services...But im a bassist/vocalist (in theory..).

I did actually hear a pearl jam vibe too

[Lucky Rathen]

Originally Posted by WoodyRATM

No probs i'm a fan too. If my talents as a lead player were any good i'd offer my services...But im a bassist/vocalist (in theory..).

I did actually hear a pearl jam vibe too

Very possible, i was a proper little grunge kid in the 90s, I listened constantly to Pearl Jam, Nirvana, Soundgarden, Alice In Chains, Mudhoney, Screaming Trees, Blind Melon, Hole, L7, Stone Temple Pilots etc. and that was at the time I was learning guitar so I was hugely influenced by that era, and it probably has bled through into my own songwriting. With the Cobra Kai I definitely wanted it to have a grungey core, ie quiet picky verses and big shouty choruses, and with a very minor key sound, but at the same time make it sound kinda modern and not so messy, and with dramatic bits like Muse. I'm surprised there aren't more grunge bands around as there must be so many of the modern musicians who were influenced by the Seattle scene in the 90s. Gotta love the grunge

[RockAustin]

The new one is much better. It feels more dynamic.

[Lucky Rathen]

Originally Posted by RockAustin

The new one is much better. It feels more dynamic.

I don't really know what you mean by dynamic. Probably due to me having a very limited vocabulary! Could you expand a little?

I've uploaded a 4th song now btw. "Repeat Offender".

The Cobra Kai <thecobrakai>