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Old 13-03-2007, 09:44   #1 (permalink)

 
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Anyone selling something along the lines of Behringer Truth/Tannoy Reveal/Spirit Absolute 2 for a reasonable price? Would be looking to spend 100 odd, depending on what was on offer.
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sorry, this is perhaps not the most useful post, but just wanted to say if you start looking on ebay, keep an eye out for some of the m-audio entry range monitor pairs too, they are no bad.

i got a pair of tannoy reveals second hand last year, and it was one of the best things i've done, especially so if you are moving from something like working with headphones all the time, or using a normal hi-fi and/or computer speakers. i moved from using a fairly ok hi-fi with what i thought were not bad speakers. i couldn't believe the difference when i started using the monitors.

it has the additional bonus that existing music you have sounds amazing through them too. hope you find something suitable soon.
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I dunno if the monitors mentioned above are or not but make sure you get powered ones.
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I dunno if the monitors mentioned above are or not but make sure you get powered ones.
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Tannoy reveal (particular the smaller models) do lack bottom end. You can supplement this later with a subwoofer.

I have a pair of Tapco from a similar price range as tannoy reveal, the bass is heavily exagerated so not a lot of use for mix down.
Also have a pair of KRK studio monitors which are amazing.

I also hear that some of the Alesis Studio monitors are very good, especailly for their price.

I heard great things about Samson Resol 8A. They are a bit more expensive but the suggestion was they were better than the other models in the range and of comparible models from other companies. If you don't need this urgently, it might be worth saving up for them.

If you find KRK secondhand, go for them, even if non-powered.

My fairly decent samson studio power amplifier cost around £100, new and it's worth every penny.

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The sound quality is better because the speakers are driven independently, easing the burden on the rest of your set-up and it also reduces 'slew rate' i.e signal loss as it amplifies the signal at the speaker end, which is important when monitoring something (i thought you would've know that- either that or you're just wanting to get me to clarify what i mean).

Using a balanced signal/balanced leads from your mixing source would be preferable in this case though as powered (active) speakers are more susceptible to noise pick up on unbalanced leads/signals.
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The sound quality is better because the speakers are driven independently, easing the burden on the rest of your set-up and it also reduces 'slew rate' i.e signal loss as it amplifies the signal at the speaker end, which is important when monitoring something (i thought you would've know that- either that or you're just wanting to get me to clarify what i mean).

Using a balanced signal/balanced leads from your mixing source would be preferable in this case though as powered (active) speakers are more susceptible to noise pick up on unbalanced leads/signals.
Slew rate should be fairly minimal in a short-run system like nearfield monitors (providing the amp is not at the other side of the room and the speaker cable isn't the thinnest bit of copper you can lay your hands on)
Some (budget) active systems only have one amp, so you get a higher slew rate on one side than the other.
Budget active monitors are "built down to a budget, not up to a spec".

While you won't find me arguing that passive is better in mid-high price range monitors (horses for courses there), it's a bit of a lottery at the budget end of the market. Coupled with the fact that it's more expensive to upgrade active monitors I don't think anyone should rule out passives if they're on a budget.
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Slew rate should be fairly minimal in a short-run system like nearfield monitors (providing the amp is not at the other side of the room and the speaker cable isn't the thinnest bit of copper you can lay your hands on)
Some (budget) active systems only have one amp, so you get a higher slew rate on one side than the other.
Budget active monitors are "built down to a budget, not up to a spec".

While you won't find me arguing that passive is better in mid-high price range monitors (horses for courses there), it's a bit of a lottery at the budget end of the market. Coupled with the fact that it's more expensive to upgrade active monitors I don't think anyone should rule out passives if they're on a budget.
Aye, i get what you're saying there and i agree. Like anything soundwise you should really try and get to hear it with your own set-up if possible, or a set-up thats similar (while thats not so bad if you're using a laptop with an offboard soundcard i appreciate that most folks wouldn't want to cart around their desktop/moniter etc.)

Depends what you intend getting out of it and how much money you're willing to fork out in the end i suppose.
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Most high-end professional systems use bi-amped passive speakers. Active monitors have become particularly popular for budget models. Soundian hits the nail in the head, or whatever the experession is.
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Get these...

Studiospares - STU. SN10 NEARFIELD MONITORS PAIR

Supposed to be great for the price.
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