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[spellchecker]

yes, i was shouting.

it's really annoying and inconsistent too. stop being so bloody over-zealous, new moderators!

[Chris]

we'll move threads if they should be in another forum. last one I moved was a thread called The Music and it was asking what everyone thought about the gig. That should obviously have been in the feedback forum so I moved it.

It's not about being over-zealous it's just that now there's more of us the job can get done properly.

And at the end of the day if people put threads in the proper place to start with we wouldn't have to move them

[Frosty Jack]

And I moved the Nellcote thread, which was actually asking for feedback, into the erm, feedback forum. Either of these you object to, or was it something else?

[spellchecker]

both! all! everything! it's just annoying to me, i just feel like nobody is going to read them, and hence nobody is going to post on them, if they just get shunted straight to the feedback forum. the feedback forum is a great idea, but it seems like it's the same people that read and post on it most of the time. the good thing about the old aubl board was that most of the discussion *was* about music, and most of the people would read and/or post in these types of threads.

i'm not that interested in the specific threads that were moved per se, just the concept. the boards are supposed to be about aberdeen music, music in aberdeen, music from aberdeen, it's just a shame that when people do actually discuss music, it's relegated to a small corner, to a small audience, etc. etc.

there is plenty of "feedback" about bands (local or otherwise) that doesn't get moved to the feedback forums, e.g.

http://aberdeen-music.com/forums/showthread.php?t=23713
http://aberdeen-music.com/forums/showthread.php?t=23731
http://aberdeen-music.com/forums/showthread.php?t=23655
http://aberdeen-music.com/forums/showthread.php?t=23684
http://aberdeen-music.com/forums/showthread.php?t=21707

not trying to make a big deal, i am obviously still going to read the threads wherever the go, i just find it hard to acknowledge where the line is drawn, i mean what about all the local shows that turn into massive feedback threads?

perhaps it may be better to have "local music banter" which includes threads about local bands, touring bands (prospective or booked) coming to aberdeen and playing, gig announcements, etc. etc., and "foreign music banter" which talks about any other music not related in some way to aberdeen. these could, of course, replace "feedback forum" and
"all music discussion".

[Dave]

I'm with you on the last three. They just slipped under the radar, I guess. Happy now?

[Frosty Jack]

fair point, but I think any way you divide it up there's always going to be grey areas. There does need to be a certain element of 'sorting', and various combinations have been tried, but I think the set up just now is ok. Ideally I think the Feedback Forum should be for local musicians who would gain from hearing opinions on their material, either live or recorded. The criteria I personally would apply is 'what is the intention of the thread?' If the point of it is to help the band by providing opinions, then that goes in the feedback forum. If it is merely to talk about a gig with other people who were there, that stays in All Music. There should always be a 'moved' re-direct as well. I'll start a discussion in the staff forum about it to clarify.
Right enough though we don't always get it right, and sometimes don't notice threads that should be moved - there's a couple in your list I probably would have moved if I'd caught them. Might do now though...
Anyway, thanks for your...er...feedback...

[spellchecker]

Originally Posted by Dave M_LL

Happy now?

I don't think you understand the point I was trying to make. I posted the threads above as an example of how fine a line it is between "music discussion", and "feedback discussion", and as an example of how the situation could possibly be remedied, so that the website's domain name has at least a little relevance.

really, these people on judge judy on monday morning could have a field day with this website, making it look like the total joke that it often is. 100 page threads about pirates, all the infighting that is embarked upon daily without fail, 10 favourite 10 hated threads, i mean, what the hell has it got to do with music in aberdeen? the whole fact that this website needs supporting demonstrates how far it has drifted from (what i think was) its original purpose.

i don't begrudge wastelanders their wasteland, nor bands their band forums - for 98% of this website's userbase, the website is probably ideal. however, like mince pies, the website has approximately 88% filler content, the rest possibly being real substance. this in itself is not a new discussion, and i'm not looking for any answers, just re-iterating unsolved problems.

[Dave]

I know what you meant. Sorry, I was a bit blunt and blase there. Hopefully, if myself and the other mods can encourage more people to look in the Feedback Forum by moving relevant threads there, your concerns about nobody reading them will become a moot point.

The whole site is a work-in-progress. It's more heavily moderated now, so hopefully the problems you brought to our attention will be rectified in time.

[spellchecker]

fair enough.

[Frosty Jack]

Good points, food for thought. Also remember though that plans are afoot for some major changes round these parts at some point. That's down to Lord Neil though of course.