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[TheTickingTime-Bomb]

I've been re-reading this for the past few days.

I think Christopher Hitchens may have beat even Bertrand Russells effort on this one.

Absolutely essential.

Anyone else read it?

[Mouse]

Sounds like a good one, will have to check it out

[GavH]

one of my mates is reading it just now.he says its a brilliant read.i'll have to see about getting it after hes finished

[Stripey]

christopher hitchens is an ignorant gimp, who supported the Iraq war and supports george bush.

[TheTickingTime-Bomb]

Make sure you do - I can't recommend it enough.

For both believers and unbelievers it is a must.

[TheTickingTime-Bomb]

Originally Posted by Stripey

christopher hitchens is an ignorant gimp, who supported the Iraq war and supports george bush.

I knew I was eventually going to end up argueing with you stripey...

And because your post wasn't exactly enlightening, I am forced to dispell your own high strung ignorance on the subject of Hitchens.

Try researching.

He only supports George Bush's campaign in the middle east, as do I, but not the man himself.

I think the reason more people aren't behind the Iraq war is because of the constant shifting and flip-flopping over the reasons for going. And perhaps for not finishing the job in Afghanistan first.

If the Govenment had just said - "We are going to get rid of some evil guy we funded to do our dirty work back in the day, and liberate some people and grab some oil while we are there" then I would still have been against it, but grateful for the truth.

Though I disagree with Hitchens over the Iraq war - he has perhaps the most compelling case for it.

I remember him saying that anyone whose anti-Iraq tirade starts with :

"OK Saddam was a bad guy, but..."

clearly does not know enough about the subject to have an arguement.

Anyway Stripey - If you could tell me why you didn't like the book exactly instead of posting short, ignorant and misleading posts that detract from, and indeed change, the subject at hand then I would be very grateful.

[Stripey]

Anyone who supports the bush administrations middle east policy is morally bankrupt, hitchens is no exception and his argument that it was worth it to get rid of saddam hussein is completely invalid. I do not care to read a book written by the guy.

As Hitchens retreated, someone remarked to him, "So your glorious war has turned out to be a total disaster, hasn't it?"

"It is glorious," the sodden scrivener blared, "and it IS my war because it needed Paul Wolfowitz and myself to go and convince the President to go to war."

As mourners digested this megalomanic outburst, Hitchens continued, "And we are going to kill every Al Qaida terrist and Baathist in the country and that's a good thing. They need to be killed and we will kill them."

[TheTickingTime-Bomb]

Originally Posted by Stripey

Anyone who supports the bush administrations middle east policy is morally bankrupt, hitchens is no exception and his argument that it was worth it to get rid of saddam hussein is completely invalid. I do not care to read a book written by the guy.

Classic.

His comments on religion and comprehensive grasp of political history are absolutely breath-taking, but you with your short unconsequential, unexplained, holier than thou comments are definately more worth my time.

Thank you stripey for highlighting the good old black and white "throwing the baby out with the crib" morality.

Would you throw away Einsteins theorems (the baby) because he believed in something that you disagreed with (the crib)?

You are entitled to your own opinions, but not your own facts.

The book isn't a speculative account of Iraq, but a factual study of Religion.

Read it - you might learn something.

[TheTickingTime-Bomb]

"As mourners digested this megalomanic outburst, Hitchens continued, "And we are going to kill every Al Qaida terrist and Baathist in the country and that's a good thing. They need to be killed and we will kill them.""

You don't agree?

[Hog]

Originally Posted by TheTickingTime-Bomb

I knew I was eventually going to end up argueing with you stripey...

And because your post wasn't exactly enlightening, I am forced to dispell your own high strung ignorance on the subject of Hitchens.

Try researching.

He only supports George Bush's campaign in the middle east, as do I, but not the man himself.

I think the reason more people aren't behind the Iraq war is because of the constant shifting and flip-flopping over the reasons for going. And perhaps for not finishing the job in Afghanistan first.

If the Govenment had just said - "We are going to get rid of some evil guy we funded to do our dirty work back in the day, and liberate some people and grab some oil while we are there" then I would still have been against it, but grateful for the truth.

Though I disagree with Hitchens over the Iraq war - he has perhaps the most compelling case for it.

I remember him saying that anyone whose anti-Iraq tirade starts with :

"OK Saddam was a bad guy, but..."

clearly does not know enough about the subject to have an arguement.

Getting rid of him really hasn't made Iraq the next UAE or Qatar which is a shame because it is a country that has the potential.

Saddam was a bad guy, no WMD's, The US can't properly fund the restructure of Iraq and Afghanistan... really, the list is very long.

Now, the "I remember hims saying that anyone whose anti-Iraq tirade starts with" comment. Yeah, em, I can see what he is doing there, very witty

A bit like... "remember 9/11". Why 9/11? Why does an event require a special name like that? Remember "23/2", what happened then?