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Old 21-10-2009, 10:12   #23 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Le Stu View Post
My major confusion, with regard to the attitudes of the British electorate, is why the voters believe Gordon Brown is somehow trustworthy or perceived as the steady hand to sail us through stormy waters (usual horrible media metaphor.) The guy has delivered unto us a fantasy economy where we borrow, spend and inflate and pay for nothing with production or savings. Perhaps it's unfair to criticise him solely for this as it's been an economic system that has been propagated since the days of Thatcher.
That's the problem right there. The Conservative Government started the problem and Labour just ran with it, the best example being their obsession with PFI. But as Alkaline says it could possibly be said to go further back than that - I really kind of doubt there is an honest way to run an economy nowadays, it's all smoke and mirrors by definition. We're fucked no matter who's in charge. And that just makes me fear a return to the Tories even more. Leaving aside the economy, at least Labour brought back a feeling of 'society' again, which the Tories had purposefully killed off. Anyone old enough to be able to compare life pre and post 97 could tell the difference in how people treat each other. The 80s and 90s were great if you were already in a position to help yourself and you really didn't care about anyone else. Otherwise you were fucked. Forget it. Seriously, if you didn't live through that time, you can't imagine how depressing the whole 'fuck you, I'm OK' attitude was. Generally speaking Labour at least brought back some sort of sense of helping others. That still wins for me.

I know it's early in the day, but I must be pissed, because I could swear Dave just described himself as a 'libertarian'...
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