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Old 09-07-2009, 19:52   #44 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by idol_wild View Post
Good post, Cloud. I think he'll probably check back to chart the progress of this thread.
More than likely. I wasn't going to say anything, but his threats of litigation really do deserve treated with the contempt that they deserve. It's always the line brought out with people with absolutely no experience of the legal system - and anyone who has even a passing interest in law knows that the threats are absolutely hollow. It's one thing when a company like Microsoft or the BPI threaten you - because they've got the money to drag you through the courts until you submit from how much it's costing you. But 'Redland' don't have the money to do it - and I doubt they could afford to even bring such a case to court in the first place.

Even obtaining the personal details of people posting to this site would surely cost quite a bit of money in obtaining the relevant court order - and what would they get except details of IP addresses and publicly viewable information? Then you'd be looking at a court order to force the ISP to reveal who '212.22.35.215' is - which again wouldn't be cheap, as the ISP would fight any such order to avoid setting a precedent.

Quite frankly, throwing around threats of litigation is a guaranteed way for your business to fail. Would anyone on here really do business with someone who would threaten you with the courts if you didn't do exactly as he wanted?

I've just had a look at the terms and conditions on the website, and several things stand out for me.

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If you cancel any gig for any reason within 14 days of the date of the gig you will be billed for the amount of 50 tickets multiplied by the ticket price.
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You do not have to sign any contracts when playing Red Battle, but you agree to these terms and any others we set before you in writing by playing and applying for Red Battle.
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We reserve the right to withdraw any prizes from any band with whom we cannot reach an agreement on the specifics of any prize, this includes lack of contact from the band.
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d.) you will be paid £1 per ticket sold, once you have sold a minimum of 50 tickets;

e.) you will receive rider, once you have sold a minimum of 50 tickets;
Why do I have the feeling that these terms and conditions were ripped off from the Red Stripe BOTB that had similarly dodgy terms?

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