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Old 10-05-2006, 12:55   #5 (permalink)
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Just to check- you listened all the way through? Its louder in some parts than in others, I'm not being silly here but I've posted snap gut feelings before grasping a track properly. Also thanks for qualifying your post.
Ok.. I'm not really sure about sustaining the piano it should be fairly clean and sound a little dramatic and scattered, not a wash of notes- and its actually a fairly meaty piano - maybe I should have played that phrase an octave lower?
The drums pass through tight distortion filters, I must admit I'm off to record drum hits to build up a bank of samples for future tracks next week- they are not supposed to sound clean however -, they are layered as follows: a fairly mid-bass distorted track that opens; a mildly reverberated track to pull up the snare and create a panning dynamic just prior and troughout the first 'heavy bit'; one thick flanged sound that appears after that; and an echoed track that creates the trippy drums later in the track. The drums have been scooped somewhat to create presence - each layer I'm trying to bring up different parts more than others.
I am using Homestudio for what its worth (not a lot its a budget solution). Furthermore I'm using a pair of linear studio monitors- there is plenty of low frequency in this track, particularily from the drums later on - as a guitarist I have to be careful not to create too much guitar presence and I also take it easy on 'scooping' the sound as much as possible because most people have an EQ loudness that they (knowingly or not) apply. I used a light mix compressor on the master track and I could push this a lot further - in fact there is still a fair bit of room before clipping anyway I think - to be honest we were still noodling the track a bit and I mixed it down with that spare room left. I will push that a bit as you say, thanks for pointing that out.
The track does sound full to me, with to my ears, plenty of dynamic range for the most part- I take on board what you have said and will no doubt listen and tweak it later - but I genuinely feel that most of your points might be subjective and you might basically just not like my production style! Thats fine of course!
Could I also ask what sort of things you like, musically, and what type of production you aspire to on a record? Maybe plug whatever bands or work you have done? You know what you are talking about as these are issues that I am aware of, entering instuments as continual overdubs - each instrument sounding fine on its own but together they are all trying to conquer the same frequency area. To solve these problems I had used left/right seperation and EQing and simply recording differently to create dynamic space- as you say - to breathe.
Personally (I think you can tell easy enough) I'm after a nin -eque sound, maybe some of Rammsteins grandure and meaty guitar feel? That was the intention I think, probably quite subconcious most of the time.

edit: i made some changes to improve the drum dynamics- cheers for the advice
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